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The Power of Letting Go: Shiraz Siddique's Insights on Purpose

Are you feeling overwhelmed with a cluttered mind and seeking clarity on your purpose? In this introspective episode of Seek Go Create, Tim Winders sits down with Shiraz Siddique, the inspirational force behind the Christian Business Harvest Network, to discuss the transformative power of simplifying life to unlock divine destiny. Shiraz shares his profound journey from corporate chaos to pastoral purpose, revealing how decluttering extends beyond the physical into the spiritual realm. Tune in as we delve into tales of personal discovery, explore the balance of pursuing money ethically, and uncover the poignant lessons from Shiraz's book "Well Done, A Passionate Pursuit of Purpose." If you're on a quest for purpose and inner peace, this is an episode you cannot afford to miss.

"Your natural gifts are not just coincidences; they are signposts pointing you towards your divine destiny." - Shiraz Siddique

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About Our Guest:

Shiraz Siddique is a multifaceted professional and influential guide, merging his corporate acumen with a deep passion for ministerial work. Having navigated the intricacies of the corporate sector while simultaneously embracing his role in church pastoring, Shiraz has a unique perspective on balancing worldly success with spiritual fulfillment. With a master’s in theology and practical experience pastoring at various churches, he is a sought-after mentor for those looking to integrate their faith with their professional endeavors. As the visionary behind the Christian Business Harvest Network, Shiraz is a proponent of ethical wealth generation and leveraging business for ministry. His commitment to empowering individuals to pursue their divine destiny while simplifying life to unearth purpose is embodied in his insightful book, "Well Done, A Passionate Pursuit of Purpose." His life is a testament to the power of aligning one's natural talents with their God-given calling, serving as inspiration and a source of wisdom to many.

Reasons to Listen:

1. Uncover the Art of Purpose: Dive into Shiraz Siddique’s transformative journey from corporate success to purpose-driven living and learn how to declutter your life for divine destiny.

2. Royal Priesthood Insights: Delve into the balance of being both a king and a priest in your everyday life, an empowering perspective shared by Shiraz that challenges conventional views of spiritual vocation and purpose.

3. Practical Spirituality in Action: Listen as Shiraz reveals the struggles and realizations that led him to align his natural talents with his faith, offering actionable guidance for listeners to unlock their own paths to meaningful success.

Episode Resources & Action Steps:

**Resources Mentioned:**

1. Book: "Well Done, A Passionate Pursuit of Purpose" by Shiraz Siddique - Available for purchase on Amazon and through Siddique's website.

2. Christian Business Harvest Network (CBHN) - A network led by Shiraz Siddique, which focuses on aligning work with divine destiny.

**Action Steps:**

1. Declutter Your Life: Listeners are encouraged to simplify their lives by letting go of material possessions that do not serve their purpose or add value to their lives. This can be a physical decluttering of their space or a digital detox to reduce information overload.

2. Reflect on Natural Talents: Reflect on what comes naturally and consider how those talents and inclinations might align with your purpose. Take inventory of your skills and passions to better understand the direction you should pursue.

3. Activate Your Internal Purpose: Engage in self-reflection to remind yourself of who you are and what you truly want to achieve. Begin by putting discipline into practice and taking actionable steps to activate and pursue your internal purpose.

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Key Lessons:

1. The Power of Simplification: Shiraz Siddique emphasizes the importance of decluttering both physical spaces and internal mindsets as a foundational step in discovering and pursuing one's true purpose. Learning to let go of the unnecessary can unburden individuals from distractions and allow them to focus on their divine destiny.

2. Aligning Talents with Purpose: Both Tim Winders and Shiraz Siddique share personal experiences about the challenge of harnessing natural talents that may not align with family expectations or societal pressure. The lesson here is to recognize, embrace, and lean into one's innate abilities in order to fulfill their God-given potential and make impactful contributions.

3. The Dual Role of Being a King and a Priest: Siddique touches on the concept of empowering others to be both providers ('kings') and spiritual guides ('priests'). This duality emphasizes the importance of integrating ethical financial success with a life of service and spirituality, redefining what it means to lead a purposeful and successful life.

4. Finding Purpose Requires Action: There is a recurring theme of proactive pursuit in the quest for fulfilling one's purpose. Shiraz encourages listeners to "Go" – taking action, making decisions, and creating opportunities rather than waiting for them to appear. This principle advocates for a dynamic rather than passive approach to living out one’s calling.

5. The Challenge of Information Overload: Both Shiraz and Tim note the North American cultural tendency towards excessive consumption of information, which can lead to a metaphorical "spiritual constipation." They underline the importance of disciplining oneself to filter out the noise, thereby enabling a clearer understanding of one’s identity and purpose.

Episode Highlights:

00:00 Avail myself as a tool for people.

06:27 Understanding purpose and gifting through self-reflection.

16:01 Mistake in monetizing gift, not trusting God.

18:26 Struggling with frugality and time management.

22:30 Invite sacrifice, preach revelation, seek God's glory.

29:33 Pastor emphasizes fiscal growth for church ministries.

36:13 Simplify, declutter, and find what you need.

42:03 Intentional walk, struggles with information overload.

48:43 Wife questions writing a book while on vacation.

53:26 Churches focus on congregation's role in life.

57:37 Fear of pigeon, dad's words bring comfort.

01:00:54 Book intended for mature Christians seeking growth.

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Transcript
Siraz Siddique:

Get rid of the good things and do the God things.

Siraz Siddique:

How do you do that?

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Declutter and simplify.

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You will find purpose when you simplify a lot of the things that you're doing now.

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There's so many different ways to do it, but I know that somebody

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needed to hear that today.

Siraz Siddique:

Um,

Tim Winders:

Where does the path of professional success

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intersect with spiritual purpose?

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Today on Seek, go Create, we're joined by Shiraz Sidique, the visionary behind

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the Christian Business Harvest Network.

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We'll call it CBHN.

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From now on, Shiraz is on a mission to empower business professionals to not

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only excel in their careers, but also fulfill their divine destiny through faith

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as the author of Well Done, a passionate Pursuit of Purpose, good alliteration.

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There by the way, Shiraz Advocates for a Life that goes beyond the

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mundane, urging individuals to align their work with God's Plan.

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CBHN stands as a testament to his commitment offering tools and a community

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for those seeking to weave their faith into their professional lives.

Tim Winders:

Shiraz, welcome to Seat Go Create.

Siraz Siddique:

Tim, I gotta tell you, I'm gonna steal that intro.

Siraz Siddique:

You make me sound pretty good.

Siraz Siddique:

I hope they use that when I show up in heaven.

Siraz Siddique:

And then I like, like I, I could just picture Peter or Gabriel be like,

Siraz Siddique:

attention, because that was a really good intro and you deliver it pretty good too.

Siraz Siddique:

Thanks for that intro, man.

Tim Winders:

Cool man.

Tim Winders:

Great to have you here.

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Yeah.

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I do wonder, I kinda had this vision when you were saying that of like, uh,

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you know, like this slow clap line, when you kind of get to heaven and,

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and you kinda like clapping you on.

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I think a lot of people, and we'll talk about Judgment Day, I love in your

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book, 'cause I read it just over the last few days, judgment Day, I kept

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picturing like Arnold Schwarzenegger and Sarah Connor Judgment Day.

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It's not quite that.

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I know that's what you weren't referring to, but, uh, I think so

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many people look at it as like this negative event, but I'm, I'm actually

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thinking there could be a lot of joy there, but I'm getting off track.

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I'm getting ahead of myself.

Tim Winders:

Shiraz, you and I bumped into each other before we've talked.

Tim Winders:

I've been on CBHN.

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We've, we've done some things and had some great conversations.

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But if, if someone just bumps into you and they ask you what you do,

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what do you typically tell them?

Siraz Siddique:

I mean, My wife still can't answer that question.

Siraz Siddique:

When somebody asks her what her husband does, when you avail yourself, I, I,

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I see myself as not necessarily a Dr.

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Jack of all trades, but a master of none, but being who

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God needs to be in that moment.

Siraz Siddique:

Now that sounds like a little spiritualized and high highfalutin.

Siraz Siddique:

That's not what I mean.

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It's you develop a passion for people and then you lean into what

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Paul said, all things to all people.

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And if the scenario calls for a bit of mentorship and guidance,

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well then let's go there.

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If it's tactical and practical, well then let's go there.

Siraz Siddique:

so what I do is try my best to avail myself as a tool for the people that I

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get to encounter through the work that I do, whether it's the, TV show that

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we operate, whether it's the food truck that we are about to launch, or the other

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areas that I'm involved with in ministry.

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But what I do is try to be that tool and you're the best.

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Tool that I've learned to be is the one that doesn't exist.

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I've learned to not do anything if God is saying, this one is for you

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and the bench, sit this one out.

Tim Winders:

Hmm.

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Is that hard for you to do?

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Is that hard for you to sit out?

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Are you wired that way?

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Is.

Siraz Siddique:

that's why I said I'm learning, to sit out.

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there's been too many times in my life where I've gotten in my

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own way, because you're always trying to do the right thing.

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You're always trying to go above and beyond add value.

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the, all of the old adage leave a place better than you left it, or, or, or

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leave a place better than you found it.

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And you always want to, leave the fingerprint of God's blessing on something

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that I, I is in your rear view mirror.

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And so many times God's like, can you just chill out?

Siraz Siddique:

I don't think I ever asked you to do that, but alright.

Siraz Siddique:

You want to go and be extra again?

Siraz Siddique:

Go ahead.

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But I didn't really ask you to do that.

Siraz Siddique:

And so I'm learning still with all these gray hairs, I'm still learning.

Tim Winders:

So what's interesting, you and I, we've had a few conversations

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and I think we've clicked.

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I think we're maybe cut from the similar cloth.

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we have some different backgrounds, cultural, all that kind of

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stuff, but seems like we're leaning in the same direction.

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So I'm gonna ask you this because it's something that I

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think about from time to time.

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Do you ever wish that you were, and, and I don't want this to be degrading

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to the people that have this profession, but I'm gonna say, do you ever wish

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you were just a plumber or just an electrician, or just a blah, blah, blah?

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Especially with the conversation we just had and someone asking

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you the question, what you do?

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Do you ever wish that?

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Do you ever think about that at all?

Siraz Siddique:

100%.

Siraz Siddique:

You, we are wired, in similar ways and probably from the

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same tribe in heaven as well.

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Definitely.

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wow.

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How do I, okay, my wife is my rock, my anchor, my joy, my reason, she

Siraz Siddique:

and I couldn't be more different.

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When we're in social settings, she'll look to me to light up the room

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and begin conversations, engage.

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And she enjoys me being social and she doesn't understand that

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sometimes I just don't have the energy or the lift to lift the room.

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And I just wanna be a person in the room, not be the reason why the

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room is vibrating like I want to be.

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All these years I thought she always wanted to be more like me, more

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outgoing, more vivacious, and the entire time I want to be like her.

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I want to be the wallpaper.

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I want to just, I I can I just be in the room without having

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to have my presence felt.

Siraz Siddique:

So I'm with you 100%.

Siraz Siddique:

And I think you're right, it has to, it, it has to do with the,

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your, your primary function.

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It, well, I'll put you another way.

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so I have two daughters who are 1921 and my wife.

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So I live with three ladies.

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when their hair is curly, they want it straight.

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When their hair is straight.

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Hmm.

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They want it curly.

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Right?

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It it's almost like you crave what the opposite of what

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your, your, your 90% wiring is.

Siraz Siddique:

Does that make any sense?

Tim Winders:

It, it does.

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And I, I think for me, it, it helps me understand some of my gifting,

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some of my purpose, that I'm pursuing.

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We're talk about in Well done near in Little law.

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It helps me understand it more to attempt to poke holes at who I am.

Tim Winders:

And, and let me, I wanna, let's go ahead and dive in the deep end.

Tim Winders:

Okay.

Tim Winders:

I wanna dive in the deep end because there was something that I kept

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thinking about as I was reading your book over the last few days.

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And it's the question that I want to ask, and it's sort of related

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to this and it, and it, and I, I'll just go ahead and ask it.

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What comes easy for you?

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What is like.

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I from, from knowing you and being around you, I could guess, but I want

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hear it out of your mouth and then it might lead down a few different

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paths based on what you say here.

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So what's easy for Shiraz?

Siraz Siddique:

I come from a family who, work with their hands.

Siraz Siddique:

my dad was a millwright mechanic.

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A millwright.

Siraz Siddique:

If you, I don't think you have mill rights in the states or not, but in

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Canada, what, millwright is, they're, they're licensed to do everything welding,

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build a car, build a house like you are literally licensed to, to do anything.

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When it comes to mechanical engineering or construction, operate a crane,

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like literally, that's how powerful the millwright license is like.

Siraz Siddique:

my brother, has rebuilt his house twice.

Siraz Siddique:

I was there with the donuts and the coffee and a lot of encouragement.

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I was given a double dose of this ride here.

Siraz Siddique:

These hands are not my dad's hands, right?

Siraz Siddique:

I literally, my cousins, every, my extended family, I'm the only one,

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that was given a double portion of gab where they all, they all got the

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triple portions of toolbox, right?

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And, and so they know how to, but I, and so I've learned to lean

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into what came natural to me.

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When you grow up in an environment that's opposite.

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see, when you're a hard worker and you go to work, you punch a clock, you're, you're

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raised in a home where you work hard, you punch your clock, you come home, you

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do this, and then you punch your clock.

Siraz Siddique:

That was my mentality, but it never was congruent with my,

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the makeup that God gave me.

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So I spent so many years of my life fighting my own DNA and design.

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'cause I was trying to be something that my environment, my parents weren't

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bad parents, don't get me wrong.

Siraz Siddique:

They, they, they would never mean me any harm.

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That was never it.

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It's just, they just thought that this was the mold and the cookie cut that

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all the kids were gonna fall into.

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And so what I started doing is, is playing with it a little bit.

Siraz Siddique:

Let me try it, let me try it, let me try.

Siraz Siddique:

But it gets to a point where when you know, and you figure it

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out, you gotta start turning the volume down on every, everything.

Siraz Siddique:

And more importantly, every one else.

Tim Winders:

So what's interesting is, yeah, you and I are similar.

Tim Winders:

We might wanna check some, family trees somewhere along the way.

Tim Winders:

I'm not sure.

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My dad excellent with his hands mechanic.

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He, he worked in education, but he worked in the vocational trades, he

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helped people do things and all that.

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But he was an administrator and I just from as early on as I can remember, put

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me up on a stage in front of people.

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Let me talk.

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Just let me talk now.

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I, I do think that there is some conflict there, because what it does

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is it starts driving us in directions such as, especially if, you have a faith

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ministry, it's like, oh, you could speak.

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So what you need to do is you need to go into what we would call traditional

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ministry and things like that.

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What were some of the things that, early on you recognized as like,

Tim Winders:

okay, I, I'm not this, I don't work with these very well, I work with

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this, What are some of the pros and cons of having that as a gift?

Siraz Siddique:

I think it's universal.

Siraz Siddique:

I don't think it's, o only subject to the gift of gab.

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I think everybody's gifting and, bent towards where their sweet spot is, is

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absolutely always gonna be your greatest blessing and your greatest curse when

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you don't manage and maintain it.

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And, and, and that goes for act actors, celebrities, athletes.

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If you don't manage and maintain and get better at what God made you better

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at, uh, there's gonna be a problem.

Siraz Siddique:

I, I, it's it.

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And so I don't think it's just, unique to talking a lot.

Siraz Siddique:

well it, it's kind of like this.

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If, there are people who are made and they're great with numbers and there are

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other people that should never delete the calculator app off their phone.

Siraz Siddique:

Like, don't do it.

Siraz Siddique:

You need the help.

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there are people who are great at art.

Siraz Siddique:

this guy, he stopped at stick figures right here.

Siraz Siddique:

He's like, Hmm, yeah, no thanks.

Siraz Siddique:

No thanks.

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And can you imagine in one of my art, I think I got like

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a C or a D on stick figures.

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I'm joking, but like, that's how bad it is when it comes to being creative

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with, with withdrawing my hands.

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So I think everybody has already a sense of who they are.

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And here's one way you figure it out.

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It it, it's what comes naturally to me.

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What do I enjoy doing?

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And if you can lean into that, it will open up curiosity and spark opportunities.

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But you know what it's gonna do?

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It's gonna come to a point where you're gonna have to make a decision.

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You're gonna have to decide is it worth it or not?

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there is this, good, the bad and the ugly that it's gonna come with

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no matter what your gifting is.

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But you gotta decide, is it worth it?

Siraz Siddique:

I think to answer your question now very specifically about, what comes

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with talking a lot, you get accused of talking a lot, talk too much.

Siraz Siddique:

But isn't that what everybody's accused of?

Siraz Siddique:

If they really lean into their gift or you do it too much, you're doing too much.

Siraz Siddique:

Is there a line, maybe I'll throw it back to you, that, that, you found

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with what naturally you've been able to help all these people that you've

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helped the organizations and the companies that you've been able to help.

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how do you straddle that line where like, you know what, I need them

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to come to their own conclusion.

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Hey horse, there's the water.

Siraz Siddique:

Or when do you like, oh, here's my right foot of fellowship.

Siraz Siddique:

Now you're in the water.

Siraz Siddique:

where's that line that you've been able to figure, okay, how do I dance here?

Tim Winders:

Well, I think it really, I think it probably comes back

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to the whole theme of your book.

Tim Winders:

It's really, we're looking for what our purpose is.

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And so what we do is we go through life is we do identify those things.

Tim Winders:

Like you said.

Tim Winders:

I, I agree with you.

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as for as long as I can remember, I love to, and let's maybe, let's,

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let's maybe spin it positive.

Tim Winders:

I think we are communicators and connectors.

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I think that's really what we're drawn to is to communicate and connect

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people and yeah, we could do that with a microphone like we're doing here.

Tim Winders:

We could do it on a stage and, and for me, Shiraz is really interesting.

Tim Winders:

I know there was a period of time during the nineties where I was speaking in

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front of a group almost every night and with a business that I was doing

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and teaching and training and corporate stuff and all that kinda stuff.

Tim Winders:

And I realized at some point that.

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Our superpower can become our kryptonite because I was

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leaning extremely heavily on it.

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And, and in many ways it was becoming a drug.

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And I don't think I was honoring that gifting that I had with what I was

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doing with it and things like that.

Tim Winders:

Now, had I recognized that along the way, I think maybe I could have made

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some adjustments, but what typically happens is God will do something

Tim Winders:

to get your attention is the way it is, the way it worked with me.

Tim Winders:

And and so I, I do think that it's something that, you know, it's just

Tim Winders:

an awareness and I think surrounding ourselves with people that can

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maybe speak into our lives, which I, I typically have, I've done well

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at that at times, times I haven't.

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And anyway, I, I think, I think that's how I, I, I would say it.

Tim Winders:

I.

Siraz Siddique:

here's, one of the experiences that I've gone through.

Siraz Siddique:

this is not a braggadocious or a, or a, you know, a, a a, a claim that

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that makes me sound full of myself.

Siraz Siddique:

But I'm pretty good on a stage with a mic in my hand.

Siraz Siddique:

I can keep it fresh.

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I can keep a room jumping alive with a lot of energy.

Siraz Siddique:

I get to host a lot of business conferences with, two, 3000

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people in the room, pastored at a few different churches.

Siraz Siddique:

So yes, when you're in the pulpit, you have that opportunity to speak life and

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life abundantly into people's very souls.

Siraz Siddique:

and, and, and and it's one of those things where, man, you couldn't even pay me to

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do this 'cause I'm gonna do it anyway.

Siraz Siddique:

'cause I'm just so wired to do this and I love it.

Siraz Siddique:

Like, you can't pay me to do it.

Siraz Siddique:

Until I started trying to get paid to do it,

Tim Winders:

Yeah.

Tim Winders:

And so what happened then when all of a sudden we, let's

Tim Winders:

bring money into the equation.

Siraz Siddique:

yeah.

Tim Winders:

Let's bring money to the equation for everyone

Tim Winders:

because you've got this gift.

Tim Winders:

You believe you've been given it.

Tim Winders:

Now figure out how to bring money into the household.

Tim Winders:

Pay for stuff.

Tim Winders:

What happens then?

Siraz Siddique:

Yeah.

Siraz Siddique:

Because, the mistake that I had made was thinking that my source

Siraz Siddique:

was my gift, not recognizing that my source was the giver of the gift.

Siraz Siddique:

And when I leaned so hard into the gift, it was hard to make money from the gift.

Siraz Siddique:

And, and that was a hard lesson for me because, I put all my eggs into

Siraz Siddique:

this one entrepreneurial venture where I was, doing public speaking

Siraz Siddique:

training because I'm pretty good at it.

Siraz Siddique:

And I had a lot of people, I mean a lot of, could you spend time with my staff?

Siraz Siddique:

Could you train me here?

Siraz Siddique:

professors at colleges were like, Hey, can you help me design this module

Siraz Siddique:

so I can present to my students?

Siraz Siddique:

how do I do what you do?

Siraz Siddique:

And it got to my head, my heart, where I was like, okay, now my hand is activated

Siraz Siddique:

and I'm gonna start this consulting business and I'm gonna train people on how

Siraz Siddique:

to become more effective communicators.

Siraz Siddique:

man, what a mistake.

Siraz Siddique:

Because now I'm taking the gift and I'm monetizing.

Siraz Siddique:

The gift that God gave me that wasn't even mine to begin with.

Siraz Siddique:

Instead of just trusting him to open the doors where and when he needed

Siraz Siddique:

it to be activated and operated.

Siraz Siddique:

So when I said off the top, when you asked me, okay, what do you do?

Siraz Siddique:

this, that's kind of where I'm, where I was coming from.

Siraz Siddique:

What I do is try to avail myself to people and connect them, not on a

Siraz Siddique:

horizontal, but a vertical level, because you're right, we are communicators

Siraz Siddique:

and connectors, but connect on a horizontal so I can reconnect them on

Siraz Siddique:

a vertical level back to their father.

Siraz Siddique:

Now life is flowing a lot more better because I'm not trying

Siraz Siddique:

to monetize the gift on my own.

Siraz Siddique:

I'm just allowing God to do that.

Tim Winders:

I'll ask the question.

Tim Winders:

I'll ask the flip side.

Tim Winders:

What's hard for you?

Tim Winders:

What's like, what's like really hard?

Siraz Siddique:

Accounting.

Siraz Siddique:

Yeah, like, your GSC and your Hs C doing all, doing all your taxes,

Siraz Siddique:

doing it on a monthly basis, snapping a photo is easy, right?

Siraz Siddique:

You just snap a photo and it just uploads to the app.

Siraz Siddique:

I don't even make time to snap the photo of the receipt every month to upload it.

Siraz Siddique:

anything that is routine and you can, I hate it, but my accountant

Siraz Siddique:

is like, just drop off a box of receipts and you're good, Shiraz.

Siraz Siddique:

I got this.

Siraz Siddique:

But then when the bill came in at x and it was three fig, four figures, I was

Siraz Siddique:

like, wait, I, I, I'm not, I don't wanna pay you pay, pay you this, I'm out.

Siraz Siddique:

I'm just gonna do it on my own.

Siraz Siddique:

I don't, I'm not gonna, no, no, no, I'm not paying you.

Siraz Siddique:

I'm gonna do it on my own.

Siraz Siddique:

And then I never get around to doing it on my own.

Siraz Siddique:

'cause I'm trying to save money, but I'm not, I'm realizing that

Siraz Siddique:

I'm losing time, I'm losing money, I'm losing my peace of mind.

Siraz Siddique:

So a hard thing that I'm learning, what's hard for me to do is,

Siraz Siddique:

I don't think that I'm cheap.

Siraz Siddique:

But I'm frugal and there is, there's a big divide between cheap and frugal.

Siraz Siddique:

And so it's hard for me to do is spend money on things that I feel like I

Siraz Siddique:

could be doing on my own, but I never really have enough time 'cause I don't

Siraz Siddique:

measure my time capacity well enough to actually get around to do it.

Siraz Siddique:

Long-winded answer, but yeah, that's what I'm, I'm struggling through, right?

Siraz Siddique:

Like right now in this season.

Siraz Siddique:

That's what I'm struggling through.

Tim Winders:

So at, at some point when you were younger, so you grew

Tim Winders:

up in the family with, you said you had a lot of people that were

Tim Winders:

we'll call skilled with their hands.

Tim Winders:

Let's just, we'll kind of call it

Siraz Siddique:

Absolutely.

Siraz Siddique:

Blue collar is fine as well.

Siraz Siddique:

By the way.

Siraz Siddique:

Blue collar is fine as well.

Tim Winders:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Tim Winders:

And then all of a sudden that there, because I, I saw it kind

Tim Winders:

of dotted along and I know you've been involved with ministry,

Tim Winders:

but let me go ahead and hit you with an interesting question that you can answer.

Tim Winders:

I go over to your LinkedIn and I don't see ministry anywhere there.

Tim Winders:

So tell me about the ministry and then maybe un layer back why I

Tim Winders:

didn't see it over on your LinkedIn.

Tim Winders:

I, and I think your LinkedIn's a little bit old.

Tim Winders:

you probably like me.

Tim Winders:

You probably don't go update it that often, but, is that

Tim Winders:

too hard of a question there?

Tim Winders:

It's like, Hey man, where's the ministry?

Tim Winders:

Come on, man.

Siraz Siddique:

not at all.

Siraz Siddique:

it, you get to a point where if you are secure in your relation, if you're secure

Siraz Siddique:

in your marriage, you have to walk around telling people that you're married.

Siraz Siddique:

That's weird to me.

Siraz Siddique:

I've been married 25 years, we just celebrated 25 years.

Siraz Siddique:

You don't see a wedding ring.

Siraz Siddique:

if my heart isn't married to my wife, what is my ring supposed to prove to the world?

Siraz Siddique:

and, and, and, and my wife is cool.

Siraz Siddique:

Like she's totally fine with me not wearing my wedding ring.

Siraz Siddique:

If I was wearing different rings, it would meet, it would meet,

Siraz Siddique:

Hey, hey, you're ringing that ring, but not your wedding ring.

Siraz Siddique:

That would be an issue.

Siraz Siddique:

I just really could never get comfortable with my wedding ring.

Siraz Siddique:

I just couldn't do it.

Siraz Siddique:

It's fine.

Siraz Siddique:

my in-laws had a problem with that.

Siraz Siddique:

That's another story.

Siraz Siddique:

But, so like.

Siraz Siddique:

Like, with my relationship with God, I am good with God like me and him.

Siraz Siddique:

I feel like we got a good thing going.

Siraz Siddique:

Am I gonna try to prove that to everybody in the world?

Siraz Siddique:

This is what I found.

Siraz Siddique:

So there's this one church that I was pastoring at.

Siraz Siddique:

I was an associate pastor.

Siraz Siddique:

I wasn't the head pastor church in just outside of Toronto, called Huley.

Siraz Siddique:

What up Huley family.

Siraz Siddique:

If you're listening in.

Siraz Siddique:

and when I was, while I was pastoring there, I was working full-time at,

Siraz Siddique:

this telecommunications company.

Siraz Siddique:

I was their national sales manager.

Siraz Siddique:

So I had about three or four teams and I dunno, maybe 20, 30

Siraz Siddique:

people, rolling up and, and just managing a bunch of different

Siraz Siddique:

things at different times, right?

Siraz Siddique:

And this is what I found when I was there.

Siraz Siddique:

while at, while at this company, when I say record setting, yeah, I, not

Siraz Siddique:

only did I break and then I reset every sales record, it was, I mean, you

Siraz Siddique:

talk about God's favor on your life.

Siraz Siddique:

It was just powerful.

Siraz Siddique:

and, and and people would constantly come up to me, Raz, what is your secret sauce?

Siraz Siddique:

What is it that, gets you all these wonderful results?

Siraz Siddique:

Can you tell us your strategy and deadpan look up?

Siraz Siddique:

So they came to my desk.

Siraz Siddique:

I didn't go to them.

Siraz Siddique:

They came to my desk.

Siraz Siddique:

And Tim, it was, it was simple.

Siraz Siddique:

I just deadpan look in the face like God really likes me.

Tim Winders:

You are his favorite.

Siraz Siddique:

it, and it was really interesting because I

Siraz Siddique:

would get two distinct responses.

Siraz Siddique:

Always.

Siraz Siddique:

always.

Siraz Siddique:

It was like uhha, oops.

Siraz Siddique:

Gone.

Siraz Siddique:

Like, and like, end of conversation or what do you mean?

Siraz Siddique:

And those, what you means meant so much to me in those four or

Siraz Siddique:

five years that I was doing both.

Siraz Siddique:

'cause I was, I held both roles at the same time.

Siraz Siddique:

Pastoring and full-time at this telecommunications company.

Siraz Siddique:

And, and, and so this is a difference that I found.

Siraz Siddique:

My desk tended to be a greater magnet than my pulpit.

Siraz Siddique:

So when you're preaching, you have to invite people to sacrifice the rhythm

Siraz Siddique:

of their life if they hadn't already be, come to the full rele revelation of who

Siraz Siddique:

God is and who Jesus is and what he had done For all of us, you have to make an

Siraz Siddique:

effort to break your Sunday routine, put some nice clothes on and get to church.

Siraz Siddique:

Okay?

Siraz Siddique:

But if you're already at work.

Siraz Siddique:

So I began to wonderful.

Siraz Siddique:

What was more powerful, my pulpit or my desk.

Tim Winders:

Hmm.

Siraz Siddique:

And so as soon as I put up a sign, so it bothered me

Siraz Siddique:

that people would walk away just because I said God really likes me.

Siraz Siddique:

And so I didn't want to repel people.

Siraz Siddique:

But I continue to want God's glory on my life because in Isaiah when

Siraz Siddique:

it says The kings will come to the brightness of your Don Kings, your gifts

Siraz Siddique:

will make room for you before kings.

Siraz Siddique:

And so when I began to just allow the favor of God on my life to

Siraz Siddique:

perform through sales results and watching people flock because kings

Siraz Siddique:

come to the brightness of your dawn, your gifts will make room for you.

Siraz Siddique:

People were flocking to my desk, I gotta tell you, was struggled to,

Siraz Siddique:

to get them to church on a Sunday.

Siraz Siddique:

And so what was I exposed to do now, the people that walked away, that it

Siraz Siddique:

bothered me that people would walk away just 'cause I said God likes me.

Siraz Siddique:

So LinkedIn is meant to be, Hey, when I'm active, I haven't been for,

Siraz Siddique:

for a little bit, in transition with one of the roles that I'm doing in

Siraz Siddique:

a media, from a media perspective.

Siraz Siddique:

So when I get back on that, I'll be more active on LinkedIn.

Siraz Siddique:

But what it's meant to be is like, Hey, I remember that Shiraz guy.

Siraz Siddique:

Let me go check him out.

Siraz Siddique:

See him, but as soon as you're gonna meet me, we're talking about God.

Siraz Siddique:

And so I found that keeping my desk neutral, but our communication right

Siraz Siddique:

on point makes a big difference for me.

Siraz Siddique:

Now, do I think everyone should prescribe to that approach?

Siraz Siddique:

No.

Siraz Siddique:

I'm wired to be able to, the duality of my existence being corporate and

Siraz Siddique:

ministry at the same time I can.

Siraz Siddique:

I can rock both worlds at the same time.

Siraz Siddique:

Took me years to figure it out.

Siraz Siddique:

But I can do very both effectively.

Siraz Siddique:

Sometimes it was bifurcating and bipolar in my mind to be able to do both.

Siraz Siddique:

But I've learned over time how to be both.

Siraz Siddique:

And again, back hosting off the off, off the beginning to

Siraz Siddique:

be all things to all people.

Siraz Siddique:

So I've learned.

Siraz Siddique:

But both of them are gonna be a gateway to a vertical connection.

Tim Winders:

Right, because you're a connector and your ultimate

Tim Winders:

connection is to connect people with their creator, their their God.

Tim Winders:

so you, but you did spend some time in full-time ministry also, didn't you?

Tim Winders:

Didn't you do?

Tim Winders:

So you've kind of been in and around.

Tim Winders:

I think I, I, I think I remember learning about some of your early years.

Tim Winders:

so one question I always have with people that have been around what we

Tim Winders:

would call air quotes here, for those that can't see the video, I've got air

Tim Winders:

quotes, traditional ministry or the

Tim Winders:

full-time ministry role.

Tim Winders:

Many people.

Tim Winders:

Assume that that is the ultimate, that is the, the pinnacle of a spiritual walk with

Tim Winders:

God is to be in a full-time ministry role.

Tim Winders:

And we, we discuss this quite often here, so this is not a

Tim Winders:

new topic for the listener.

Tim Winders:

At times.

Tim Winders:

There are people that when they leave that role, they go through some degree

Tim Winders:

of, I failed, or God may not be pleased.

Tim Winders:

Or people come up to them and say, oh, I'm sorry brother, you must have

Tim Winders:

backslid or something like that you and I think you went back and forth some,

Tim Winders:

if you wanna share a little bit of that story here, that's fine, but it's at

Tim Winders:

some point, see you're probably like me.

Tim Winders:

You don't consider yourself not in ministry now, but at some point you

Tim Winders:

disconnected with what many would consider traditional and or full-time ministry.

Tim Winders:

What was that like?

Siraz Siddique:

Yeah.

Siraz Siddique:

I mentioned my, my family being all workers, my dad's side.

Siraz Siddique:

My mom, when I was young, she was Muslim when my dad married her.

Siraz Siddique:

And so when she came to the full knowledge and revelation of who Jesus is.

Siraz Siddique:

Man, there's one thing to grow up around Christianity, but there's another thing

Siraz Siddique:

to grow around in a different faith and then have that moment where like, Jesus

Siraz Siddique:

just walks into your life and just loves you, like you've never been loved before.

Siraz Siddique:

So she was crazy lady Christian, right?

Siraz Siddique:

Like, she was just like, went all out.

Siraz Siddique:

Because again, when, when you, when you, when you have been

Siraz Siddique:

around the concept of Christianity, you might take it for granted.

Siraz Siddique:

But for her, she never did because she knew what it was to not to live out.

Siraz Siddique:

So for her, the greatest, achievement in her life, other than the grandkids,

Siraz Siddique:

'cause we stopped existing when we all had kids, was, when I became a pastor,

Siraz Siddique:

that was her great crowning achievement.

Siraz Siddique:

She, she'd call it.

Siraz Siddique:

Did you see my beta?

Siraz Siddique:

That means son, he is pastor.

Siraz Siddique:

Like, so she was like, so like always beaming with such pride

Siraz Siddique:

because her son was a pastor.

Siraz Siddique:

So for her it was a really big deal.

Siraz Siddique:

Not to say that it wasn't for me, but for her it just meant the world for her.

Siraz Siddique:

growing up, my uncle, so this is on my dad's side, planted the

Siraz Siddique:

very first thisI church in Canada.

Siraz Siddique:

This is a term that encompasses Pakistan and India.

Siraz Siddique:

he, and, and the church was, the language was Urdu, which is in Pakistan

Siraz Siddique:

and Punjabi, which is in India.

Siraz Siddique:

And so they would speak the very, their dialects of the same language effectively.

Siraz Siddique:

and I'm 19.

Siraz Siddique:

He's training me to kind of take over the ministry, not take over,

Siraz Siddique:

but join him in ministry and, 'cause we were always around and, and like,

Siraz Siddique:

Hey, let's send you to seminary.

Siraz Siddique:

And so I'm 19 and I'm going off to seminary school.

Siraz Siddique:

Like it's, everything's set.

Siraz Siddique:

Like let's go.

Siraz Siddique:

And, and, and, and, I asked a simple question one Sunday afternoon,

Siraz Siddique:

and this changed my life forever.

Siraz Siddique:

This one Sunday afternoon, we're at my uncle's house again, the pastor a few

Siraz Siddique:

other leaders are there, and we're talking about the summer outreach programs when,

Siraz Siddique:

when you consider outreach, in those days it was specifically to, an Indian and

Siraz Siddique:

Pakistan community, which would've been predominantly, Hindu, Muslim, or Sikh.

Siraz Siddique:

population of that is quite large in the GTA, the greater Toronto area.

Siraz Siddique:

And, how do we do this outreach and there this plan and that plan, and

Siraz Siddique:

this plan and that plan, Tim, I asked a simple question and they came for me.

Siraz Siddique:

The, so, how are we gonna pay for this?

Siraz Siddique:

You have no faith.

Siraz Siddique:

What is, and I'm looking around and I just looked at this one person that said,

Siraz Siddique:

I don't even know where this came from.

Siraz Siddique:

I was like, I don't know how to fish.

Siraz Siddique:

I'm not gonna go find gold coins in a fish's mouth.

Siraz Siddique:

I just asked a simple question.

Siraz Siddique:

I was so frustrated that this was a Sunday.

Siraz Siddique:

By the Monday I figured out a way, now enrollment and

Siraz Siddique:

acceptance was already done.

Siraz Siddique:

'cause it's June school starts in September, I'm done high school.

Siraz Siddique:

got into a community college and went into marketing.

Siraz Siddique:

Except forget this, I don't want anything to do with this ministry.

Siraz Siddique:

They don't even have the ability to do this.

Siraz Siddique:

Uh, four years later I'm pastoring at a church, a different church.

Siraz Siddique:

And, and, and so God has a sense of humor.

Siraz Siddique:

And so I've been able to bring that flavor into.

Siraz Siddique:

House one of being, fiscally forward, meaning let's go and generate as

Siraz Siddique:

much income as we can for ministries to fulfill the vision that God has

Siraz Siddique:

through the pastor of that house.

Siraz Siddique:

I don't care what house, what, where your, your, your pastor has a vision

Siraz Siddique:

for what they want to accomplish, but how are we gonna pay for it?

Siraz Siddique:

And that created my drive for CBHN, for example, is to help

Siraz Siddique:

every person make as much money as possible with two conditions.

Siraz Siddique:

With, with two qualifiers.

Siraz Siddique:

What are you willing to do to make that money?

Siraz Siddique:

Say your, establish your moral ground, establish it and maintain it,

Siraz Siddique:

and don't question your integrity.

Siraz Siddique:

what are you willing to do to get it?

Siraz Siddique:

And secondly, what are you gonna do with it?

Siraz Siddique:

And as long as you can answer those two questions, I feel like that Sunday

Siraz Siddique:

afternoon still shapes me to this day.

Siraz Siddique:

Right?

Siraz Siddique:

To, to, to ensure that everybody makes as much money as possible to pay for.

Siraz Siddique:

Their pastor.

Siraz Siddique:

Summer outreach program.

Siraz Siddique:

Yes.

Siraz Siddique:

Help out charities and do all those things.

Siraz Siddique:

But your local church man, God created that for us to be able to,

Siraz Siddique:

but as an effective communicator, I did, by the way, in my thirties, go

Siraz Siddique:

back and get my master's in theology because that's still a part of me.

Siraz Siddique:

I, I have pastored at three different churches since, or in

Siraz Siddique:

total three churches, stints, but never as a head pastor.

Siraz Siddique:

So I've always had this sweet spot where I'm able to be in ministry and in

Siraz Siddique:

the corporate world at the same time.

Siraz Siddique:

'cause I'm not the senior pastor.

Siraz Siddique:

I'm coming alongside for a season.

Siraz Siddique:

I don't know who that was for, but I just want to give you

Siraz Siddique:

the liberty that you matter.

Siraz Siddique:

And if you're listening today, listen, I just wanna remind you,

Siraz Siddique:

there are 12 tribes of Israel.

Siraz Siddique:

Only one of them were priests.

Siraz Siddique:

So what value does that represent for all of the rest of us When the

Siraz Siddique:

Bible calls us, we are a king priest.

Siraz Siddique:

Royal priesthood unto God, meaning we're king and priest.

Siraz Siddique:

Yeah.

Siraz Siddique:

Some people just have a higher percentage king.

Siraz Siddique:

Some people just have a higher percentage priest.

Siraz Siddique:

But we're both, and we will always be both.

Siraz Siddique:

'cause we are royal king side, and priest, right?

Siraz Siddique:

Because that's what we are.

Siraz Siddique:

But 11 outta 12 year percentage for King is higher than your priestly side.

Siraz Siddique:

But again, we're both.

Siraz Siddique:

So if you are part of the 11 or the 12, which means the majority

Siraz Siddique:

of the people, that means we need to empower as many people as

Siraz Siddique:

possible to pursue their purpose.

Siraz Siddique:

Not in church, not in christen them, but within their giftings, in their DNA.

Siraz Siddique:

So they can go and conquer in the marketplace to release the

Siraz Siddique:

blessings and provide for the vision of the, of the priest, meaning

Siraz Siddique:

the pro vision for the vision.

Siraz Siddique:

And I apologize for getting too excited, passion, but at the core of

Siraz Siddique:

it, that's what I live for, is to make sure that we can pay for all these

Siraz Siddique:

pastor's visions that exists, that God has raised up across the globe.

Tim Winders:

Yeah, I like that I pulled your string there.

Tim Winders:

I was, I was hoping I could do that.

Tim Winders:

I could get you kinda worked up there.

Siraz Siddique:

you did.

Tim Winders:

and I lo, I love the example of the 11 outta the 12 tribes and if you

Tim Winders:

want to jump over to the New Testament, of the 12 that Jesus surrounded himself with.

Tim Winders:

What, he, he went out and got the, the, the dirty fisherman and, and he, he,

Tim Winders:

I don't wanna say he maybe not, didn't pick his accountant well, but you know,

Tim Winders:

that was probably part of the plan.

Tim Winders:

But,

Tim Winders:

but but we know, but we know who he picked there.

Tim Winders:

so here's the big question that I think you are looking to address with the book.

Tim Winders:

I think it's the big question that our listeners have, probably the people that

Tim Winders:

you interact with, people I interact with.

Tim Winders:

It's how do I step into, how do I identify, how do

Tim Winders:

I know what my purpose is?

Tim Winders:

And we could start talking about, the book here.

Tim Winders:

We could talk about, I know what you do with CBHN.

Tim Winders:

how do I know that I'm supposed to go get a food truck?

Siraz Siddique:

I, here we go.

Siraz Siddique:

Are you ready?

Tim Winders:

Tell me about the food.

Tim Winders:

What did the

Tim Winders:

skies part and you said.

Siraz Siddique:

Let's go.

Siraz Siddique:

Are you ready?

Siraz Siddique:

Are you ready?

Siraz Siddique:

I'm gonna be long-winded in this one.

Siraz Siddique:

I'm gonna take it because this is, this was revolutionary for me.

Siraz Siddique:

I'm gonna work backwards.

Siraz Siddique:

I'm gonna start from about four weeks ago, so whatever time we're filming this, this

Siraz Siddique:

in the year, about four weeks ago, I was reading in Genesis where Jacob, decides,

Siraz Siddique:

Hey, I gotta get away from Labban.

Siraz Siddique:

So if you're familiar with the story to Genesis 30, 31, 32, and, uh, Jacob

Siraz Siddique:

had just tricked his brother and he's now takes off and he's living with his

Siraz Siddique:

uncle 'cause his brother wants to, to his brother wants to kill him, basically.

Siraz Siddique:

'cause he took his brother's blessing.

Siraz Siddique:

So entire time he's walking around with somebody else's calling on his life.

Siraz Siddique:

Woo.

Siraz Siddique:

We'll get into that in a moment.

Siraz Siddique:

All right, so he's walking around with his brother's calling that

Siraz Siddique:

God never intended for him.

Siraz Siddique:

All right?

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he, his, he, the very thing, so Jacob ends up tricking his dad.

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If you know the story well, guess what happens to Hi, guess hi with

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a brother, brother with siblings.

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Guess what happens to him?

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And on his wedding night, his uncle tricks him and does a sister sister swap?

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He did a brother, brother swap.

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So his, his uncle does a sister sister swap.

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So he ends up, long story short, with two wives, and his uncle doesn't treat him

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really well, but God still blesses him even though he wasn't being treated well.

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Okay?

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So let's fast forward.

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He takes off.

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Ian's like, what?

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Boy, he ain't going nowhere.

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I'm gonna get you.

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And he rallies up all his people and they're gonna, they're chasing down, Jacob

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because for whatever reason, he's just gonna go get 'em and take back whatever.

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Okay?

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So he is all mad and, and Laben.

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At a time of rest on his, as he's pursuing him, God shows up in a dream.

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This is what it says.

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Oh my God.

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Oh my gosh.

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This is what it says, Tim.

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this is what God says to, Laben.

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He says, don't say anything.

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I think it's verse 24.

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He says, don't say anything, bad to Jacob.

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That's not what it says.

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It says, don't say anything bad or good to Jacob.

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I'm like, what the crack is this?

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Sorry, the crack is my Christian swear word.

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I was like, what is this right here?

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Don't say anything bad or good.

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I thought it was okay to do good things.

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I thought it was okay to, bless people.

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I thought it was okay to always do good things.

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at the end, at the end of the day, you, you, you bring up your pile of good

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things and you put it before God and say, ah, here's my 84 years on the planet.

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Judge me now.

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And, and when God said, don't do anything good or bad to Jacob, and

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I began to just peel that back and peel that back and peel that back.

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And, but evaluating is that was the starting point, is me.

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God, okay, in mirror time, what's going on here?

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And I'm just checking myself out in the mirror saying,

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okay, so what's going on here?

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What, what, what am I seeing?

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food truck.

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This is where food truck finally revealed itself is because I stopped

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doing a bunch of good things.

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I peeled back all the extra stuff that I'm doing.

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I just simplified my life and got rid of the bad.

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Don't do anything good.

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I got rid of the good, and that's where my next steps just kind of revealed

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themselves because I simplified my life and I, I, I assure you, if you're

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listening in today, you know what I mean by simplifying your life, decluttering

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your life, clearing out your garage.

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You'll finally find that thing that you were looking for, that you

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didn't even know that you needed.

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But as soon as you declutter and simplify, you will find what you're looking for.

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And that's one of the reasons why I was eager to get on with Tim

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today because I knew that somebody needs to hear that declutter.

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Forget the bad stuff.

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That's obvious.

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Unfortunately, in our religious natures, we're always measuring our

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scale out of zero to minus 10, and we're trying to stay away from the

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worst sins like murder and adultery.

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Perhaps lying is a minus three.

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Perhaps break even is a good point.

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But God is even saying, evaluate all the pluses that you do, and if they

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don't line up with what I made you to do, it's not gonna go well for you.

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On judgment day, get rid of the good things and do the God things.

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How do you do that?

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Declutter and simplify.

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You will find purpose when you simplify a lot of the things that you're doing now.

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There's so many different ways to do it, but I know that somebody

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needed to hear that today.

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I just really wanted to make sure that I can express

Tim Winders:

I, I think that's powerful.

Tim Winders:

And there's so much symbolism sim, I almost didn't say that symbolism with

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the food truck that I'm gonna ask a little bit more about just a second.

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But you know, you do, and I know you're aware of this, you're

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talking to a guy who lives.

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A 39 foot motor coach, and this is our home and we've, we just celebrated our

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five year anniversary of living here.

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We've been traveling for 10 years, but we've been fairly minimalist with stuff.

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Okay.

Tim Winders:

But Shiraz, I did something else.

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I, I, I actually am coming to believe maybe that is an outward manifestation

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of cluttering that goes on internally.

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All the stuff.

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We have the garages, we fill up the storage units, I'm sure, I'm sure in

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Canada, y'all have one of the most popular businesses or storage units

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'cause people have run outta space to store their stuff at their homes and

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their basements, their garages can't even get a car in their garage anymore.

Tim Winders:

They're now putting it in storage facilities.

Tim Winders:

But I'm coming to realize how cluttered we are inside our

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minds, our souls, our hearts.

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And one of the things I did, it's going on about four months ago, is I

Tim Winders:

cut out a lot of what I was consuming news information, and I realized

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that I was addicted to information.

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It was an addiction.

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I went through it.

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It was the month of October, the tail end of 2023.

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I decided I wasn't gonna drink some alcohol and I wasn't going to read

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all my news and stuff like that.

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The alcohol I'm not addicted to.

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I could have a sip of something every once in a while and be fine.

Tim Winders:

The information, I had cold sweats almost after about two or three days

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because I wasn't able to read all the stuff that I had in front of me.

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My mind is so much clearer now.

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Talk a little bit about, and this is, we're gonna ease into the book here,

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talk a little bit about how important it is to unclutter our minds to get

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to this place of where our purpose is.

Tim Winders:

I think most people can't get to it 'cause they're listening to too many.

Tim Winders:

I'm gonna say something that might be controversial.

Tim Winders:

Too many preachers, teachers reading this latest spiritual book,

Tim Winders:

reading all the Self-help you know the Greatest, latest, greatest.

Tim Winders:

And I think we got too much going on.

Tim Winders:

Talk about that some Shiraz.

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I honestly feel that, in north American, church culture

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context, we potentially could be more educated beyond our ability to implement.

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We know more than, okay, if we simply applied 20% of the goodness of God

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that we already have come to know, we could change the world just 20%.

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I.

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And yet there is an addiction, as you said, to information,

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there's an addiction to X, y, Z.

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Potentially there's an addiction to the rhythm, the rhythmatic nature

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of what it means to be a Christian.

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You go to church on a Sunday to hear, you go to church on a Sunday to hear

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maybe there's a podcast on the other week, da da da da da da da da, a a a.

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And so just the whole concept of spiritual constipation is real.

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A lot going in.

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But how much coming out, last night, my wife and I, we got to spend

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some time with some old friends.

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He runs a, with a Canadian division.

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It's a global organization called Voice of the Martyrs.

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And, lovely couple, I'll leave their names out of it, but, look them up.

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Voice the martyrs.

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They, they help per the persecuted church around the globe.

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we were just talking about what we feel like God is doing in our lives.

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And, and this is what, the husband said last night.

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He said, I felt like God was saying, so I.

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I was like, wait, what?

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I, he felt like God was saying, so he did something about it him

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in his particular mo of motion.

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He was like, I gotta slow down.

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So he happened to be traveling, so he didn't jump on the ov, the

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people mover, he just walked aside it on purpose and cold sweats.

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The way that you described it, he was having those cold

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sweats, but he heard and he did.

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He heard and he did.

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He heard and he did.

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The whole concept of decluttering what you were saying, even our minds, like we

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live in, in an age where we're bombarded by messaging like we've never been before.

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Access to messaging is incredible.

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Just pick up your device like, and it's hard to get off of

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it as soon as you picked up.

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'cause hey, has this ever happened to you audience?

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You pick up your phone to do A, and then you find yourself doing B and then you

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can't even see your way back to A, because you don't even remember what A was.

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That's happened to me.

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I'm not preaching to nobody.

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I'm calling myself out.

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This is just the world that we live in, because we have access

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to all of this information.

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It's gonna take discipline to cut back to declutter.

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Now, an effective way to simply declutter is remind yourself of who you are.

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Okay?

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Somebody described me this way, and, Tim, I'm going to connect

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you if I haven't already to Dr.

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ffr, Franz.

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He's amazing human being.

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He's like this double psychology.

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He's like big brain, smart person.

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I think you guys will have great conversations.

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he, we call ourselves each other.

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We call ourselves shovel sharpeners.

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Okay?

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and, and, and, and and this, this is the way I'll describe it.

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If God gave you a hill and said, there's gold in that hill, is it

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enough that he gave you a hill?

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Oh, I'm sorry.

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So God is all supposed to give you a GPS and put your shovel in the

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ground and do the work for you.

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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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Then why are we here?

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Why do I have oxygen?

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Why did he make muscles in our arms?

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Why do we have a head?

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Why do we have a heart?

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Why did he tell us to be strong and be courage and go for it?

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I.

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Put your shovel in the ground.

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I, I don't have a secret recipe for you to find your purpose.

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I'm telling you, put your shovel in the ground.

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I'm saying it's time you get your shovel in the ground.

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Move some dirt outta the way.

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Keep digging.

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Keep digging.

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'cause you're gonna find two things in the, this is what you're gonna find.

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You're gonna find your gold.

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'cause if, look, if you're gonna put your shovel in the ground, you're guaranteed

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to find what you're looking for.

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But are you gonna put your shovel on the ground or you're waiting for the

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next Another good friend, she always says to, to, she's a nutritious,

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she said, it's weird because I don't teach anything new, but people always

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wanna know how to lose pay weight.

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People know how to lose weight.

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Tim, be more active here.

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Here's the formula.

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Be more active and eat better.

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Simple.

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But people want to know this, the magic pill, that's what they're

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after, but they're not after putting the shovel in the ground.

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Put the shovel in the ground day by day, putting your shovel in the ground.

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So I'm not going to give anybody a recipe, but what I will give you is

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just some encouraging encouragement to put your shovel in the ground.

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'cause you're gonna find two things.

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You will find two things.

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As soon as you get your shovel in the ground, you're gonna find your gold.

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But you'll also find the assassin in the sand.

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Most people have this desire, Tim, to find their purpose, but there's always this

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moment where we're gonna hit, where we're like, I don't know what's holding me back.

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I don't even understand what's holding me back.

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Uh, there's an assassin in the sand that sabotages our ability to move forward.

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It's like we take, we do it for three weeks, but that fourth week, how do

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you get past those shakes after two, three days of being off the news?

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That's the assassin man.

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Like there's always this pushback, blowback to keep us the same size.

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I.

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I won't get into neuroscience, but it's a homeostasis in our brain

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that says, Hey, stay the same.

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Stay the same, stay the same stay.

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But God has called us to so much more than that.

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And you pulled another string on me, buddy.

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You did.

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Uh uh, and and, and it's like, again, you're gonna find two things.

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I refuse to give people the answer that's already in them.

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How do I know the answers already there?

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Because in every acorn is the ability to become an oak tree in your DNA

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before the foundations of the earth.

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He says in Psalm 1 39 that we were fearfully and wonderfully already

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knitted in our mother's womb.

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He's already put the DNA in us.

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That purpose isn't an external additive like a cloak.

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It is an internal explosion that comes from within activate that.

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How do you do that?

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Get you to shovel in the dirt.

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Now I better stop or else I'm gonna keep on going.

Tim Winders:

so you don't have like a three steps to purpose, seven steps.

Tim Winders:

This is A, B, C, D.

Tim Winders:

Listen, we, here, here's part of our culture.

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We, we do have, you mentioned the North American.

Tim Winders:

I'll sometimes say first world culture.

Tim Winders:

Our North American first world culture.

Tim Winders:

They're looking for the easy button.

Tim Winders:

I I, at times I'm looking for the easy button.

Tim Winders:

I'm looking for what's, where's the easy button?

Tim Winders:

We're looking for the easy button.

Tim Winders:

And what I heard you say, it's not hard, but it's not easy either.

Tim Winders:

And if I look out over the horizon, if I'm consuming too much stuff,

Tim Winders:

I'm gonna hear someone talk about the easy button and I will in all

Tim Winders:

likelihood gravitate towards which one.

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Human nature.

Tim Winders:

the easy, the easy

Tim Winders:

button.

Tim Winders:

So somewhere along the way, Shiraz, speaking of something that I don't

Tim Winders:

think is easy, 'cause I've written a book and, and you've written earlier,

Tim Winders:

you mentioned you're not an artist.

Tim Winders:

See, I think to put words on paper like you did, there's art to that.

Tim Winders:

I think there's, I think it's shoveling the ground stuff too, by the way.

Tim Winders:

I think writing a book is shoveling the ground, but, so you've got the book here.

Tim Winders:

Well done.

Tim Winders:

A passionate pursuit of purpose alliteration there, you, your

Tim Winders:

alliteration, guys, that you

Siraz Siddique:

Mm-Hmm.

Siraz Siddique:

Love it.

Tim Winders:

could, you come up with like three or four more P words just in there?

Siraz Siddique:

I, I could have, but you

Tim Winders:

A plethora, a plethora of passionate pursuit of purpose.

Tim Winders:

Now tell me, tell me, tell me how it originated.

Tim Winders:

Because here, and, and let me, I'm gonna layer it with something often.

Tim Winders:

People that have a gift of speaking, taking that and putting some

Tim Winders:

of their thoughts on paper is, is, is a difficult thing to do.

Tim Winders:

Or they, sometimes we will talk ourselves out of it because we could

Tim Winders:

do a microphone and do these things.

Tim Winders:

What was that like and why did you decide to do it?

Tim Winders:

And then we'll talk a little bit about the book before you start wrapping up here.

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Why?

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we were in Orlando, and, we were back in the room.

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my wife, looks at me, so I was on, I was actually, we were staying in this nice

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little place and, like a via Airbnb, and I was on the balcony and my wife, just pops

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her head out and I was doing some writing.

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Like I'm prone to do just my own journaling, but I

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don't call it journaling.

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I just call my writing and my wife pops her head out and says, man, are

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you finally gonna write that book?

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Like, Like, like what I thought you were making, I thought coffee.

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What, what?

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And, That was it.

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That was it.

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I didn't realize that I'd been writing with all the sermons and messages

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that I've had been privileged and fortunate to be able to share,

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different churches and other venues.

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I had written.

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But it's a completely different art form to write than it is to speak.

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And you know this full well, to, you can put so much more emotion and

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tonality, facial expression, passion, juice into and, and, and, and, and

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reinforce with power every word.

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But you can't do that in, in black and white.

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It just changes everything.

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And so learning how to do it was, one step.

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I didn't step, I didn't write it to be an author.

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I didn't write it so I could write it.

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I wrote it so it could be read.

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Uh, I was very excited when we cut out 80 pages.

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It was 82 pages to be cut out of the book.

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if, if you look at the average person, I'm not, we didn't write this for readers.

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It was written to somebody who doesn't necessarily read that

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often, so it's just 10 chapters.

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Each cha, each chapter is about 12 to 13 pages.

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We wanted it to be read.

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We didn't want it to be written.

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And so with that objective in mind, we made it so that every person had the

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ability and the capacity to be able to.

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Receive what they need from it.

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And so when we wrote it that way, it changed everything.

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And you'll know this, when you sell a book, the seal just go poof.

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And they're back up there.

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Now they're on this like steady incline and like, with it when you're

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on Amazon, it's just interesting.

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You got Australia, New Zealand, places in Africa, south

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America, all across the states.

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Canadian can, the Canadian market to me was okay, that's makes sense 'cause

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maybe one or two people know me here.

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and, and but to see it just sell around the world, uh, didn't make sense.

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But I'm glad that, we did the project and when I say we, I couldn't have done

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it without my wife's support 'cause of all the sacrifices that are necessary.

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'cause I'm not naturally a writer.

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I'm a communicator.

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And so the objective was to translate what this communicate, but do it in writing.

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And so we hope that we are able to accomplish, that mission.

Tim Winders:

something that's interesting for me during, during a

Tim Winders:

process like that, we've talked about, the ability to communicate and, and,

Tim Winders:

and I, I think I've come to terms that part of what I'm doing here.

Tim Winders:

Part of what I'm doing in other areas.

Tim Winders:

At times I feel as if I'm doing it for other people, for

Tim Winders:

their information, et cetera.

Siraz Siddique:

Mm-Hmm.

Tim Winders:

But Shiraz, I'm like coming to this place where a lot of what,

Tim Winders:

and, and this is kind of for creators by the way, I'm kind of saying this,

Tim Winders:

we kind of have this thought of we're entertaining or educating or getting

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information out to the world to have impact and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Tim Winders:

I'm becoming more and more convinced that what I'm doing

Tim Winders:

right here, right now is for me.

Siraz Siddique:

Okay.

Tim Winders:

And when I wrote out, I think I came to the it's, it

Tim Winders:

sells and all that kind of stuff.

Tim Winders:

We'd always love to sell more probably.

Tim Winders:

But

Tim Winders:

I'm wondering if it was for me, what transpired with you not.

Tim Winders:

What everybody else is reading.

Tim Winders:

What, what, what transpired with you while you were in the, the process

Tim Winders:

of writing and putting this down.

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when you look at, whether it's organizationally, corporate,

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small business, or individually, church every single time, and I

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saw this and it just blew my mind.

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I, I never had seen this and this was while I was still writing the

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book and it changed everything.

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If you look at somebody's mission statement or vision or purpose statement.

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Every single one is for the benefit of others.

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Check it.

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If you read your own, if you read everyone's mission or

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vision or purpose statement, it's always to the benefit of others.

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Companies will talk about their clients, churches will talk

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about their parishioners, know whatever they wanna call them,

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their congregation, individuals.

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You know, I wanted to live a life of age, you know, for, for, for leave.

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Pass a legacy on to my kids.

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But it's always to the benefit.

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A real purpose statement.

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A real purpose statement has ev someone else in mind.

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And so that's what helped me, with that moment of like, okay,

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I really gotta write this with.

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The audience in mind.

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Did I do a good job of that?

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Time?

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Tell Will tell.

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I'm working on the second and the third book right now, and, there's

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already a bit of a demand for the, second one, so I'm, I'm it, it'll

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get out there in the next few months.

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I'm looking forward to that.

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But, but it, it, and I think it's the, the main feedback when you hear like,

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man, you were reading of my life.

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Like, that's exactly where I was.

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That's, and when you start hearing stuff that from people from around the

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world, it, it's kind of like, oh, okay.

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And it reminds you of that moment, what you're describing.

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Mission, purpose, vision.

Siraz Siddique:

It always has other people in mind.

Tim Winders:

One of the things that I did is I went through and did

Tim Winders:

some highlighting and I've got, I think we're gonna wrap this up here.

Tim Winders:

I'm gonna ask you about one statement, but I just wanna mention a few highlights that

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I'll think will help people get a flavor.

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one of the highlights I had was, but the busyness of life.

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This relates back to what we were talking about earlier, cluttering the busyness of

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life is desperately trying to weigh you down with logistical family obligations.

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Probably a lot of other obligations.

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Another highlight, one of the most common prayer requests I receive,

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this is you talking is for clarity about a person's calling and

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for direction for their destiny.

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That gives somebody the flavor of this book called Well Done.

Tim Winders:

But I want us to wrap up with one.

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Item that I highlighted, and I want you to just tell this story because this, this

Tim Winders:

is like my thickest highlight in the book.

Tim Winders:

Okay.

Tim Winders:

You ready for this?

Siraz Siddique:

Okay.

Tim Winders:

I still have a vivid memory of sitting on the toilet as a

Tim Winders:

toddler when suddenly one of my dad's pet pigeons flew in through the window.

Tim Winders:

I'm sorry, man.

Tim Winders:

That's a sentence that just screams.

Tim Winders:

Tell me more.

Siraz Siddique:

Oh man.

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the things that you didn't want to make the cut and made the

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cut, and that's, in the book.

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Yeah.

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And not only that, you figured, okay, hopefully nobody

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remembers that, but, here it is.

Siraz Siddique:

Uh,

Tim Winders:

we need to edit this out?

Tim Winders:

Do I have to edit this out?

Tim Winders:

Because that, see, to me, that tells me someone who is relating and sharing

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and, and it leads into something.

Tim Winders:

I'll let you share if you want to now what it leads to.

Tim Winders:

But I also know that there's someone sitting, going, I gotta get this book now.

Siraz Siddique:

Yeah.

Siraz Siddique:

so I love you for that, Tim.

Siraz Siddique:

That was awesome.

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yeah, and, and, and freaking out.

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I'm sitting there and I, I was like, I don't know, two, three.

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but I mean, it's weird.

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I have memories since when I was less than a year old, and my mom

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was like, how do you know that?

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And it's kind of cool.

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and I remember freaking out.

Siraz Siddique:

We lived in a, in then, in a city called London, Ontario.

Siraz Siddique:

I was actually born in London, Ontario.

Siraz Siddique:

And uh, my dad had pet pigeons, of course.

Siraz Siddique:

And who, whose dad doesn't have pet pigeons.

Tim Winders:

I mean, see, see for one thing, me, I'm sitting goings.

Tim Winders:

What?

Tim Winders:

What the.

Siraz Siddique:

this, this, it, it is, my dad was a hunter, so he

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had a lot of, animals, but he, he had a lot of guns, hunting guns.

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and I know that's, controversial for some folks in Canada and in the States,

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but whatever, he's, my dad love him.

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He's gone.

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He's probably hanging out with Jesus right now.

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and, and, and, and so he had birds.

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He had bunch different stuff around.

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So when it came in the window, I was just, I was just freaking out.

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And, uh, he's like, well, then just get up.

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I was like, I was too, I was paralyzed in that moment.

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'cause the thing that always kept me back was in this, in this, in this

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situation, took in the form of a bird.

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But it's what kept me back from just simply going to unlock

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the door to let my dad in.

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To get the bird.

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'cause I'm young freaking out.

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They're like, what's going on?

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But I had locked the door.

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I was old enough to lock the door, and I'm sitting on the toilet door is locked.

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And he is like, well just unlock the door, but be between me and the door.

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Was my fear.

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A harmless pigeon that was probably more afraid of me than I was of it.

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But it stood between me and the door.

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And the only thing that got me to the door was my dad leaning up against the door.

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And you know how when you lean against it, there's a little

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crack that creates if you push it.

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And just, I could hear his deep voice saying, it's gonna be all right.

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Just come and open the door first.

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You're gonna be fine.

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You're gonna be fine.

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You're gonna be fine.

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And then all through my life, there's moments like that where I remember

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my dad saying to me, sh, You're ma.

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You're doing too much.

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You're making too much out of the negative.

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It's not that big.

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Just comment, unlock.

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I.

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The fear that's in between where you stand and where your purpose is.

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It's actually not that hard.

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Just get up and unlock the door.

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It's as soon as you unlock that door, son, I will rush in and, and again,

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there are people listening today.

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As soon as you just stand up for God, watch him stand up for you, watch him

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take care of what was, what was fake.

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Anyways, there's, there was never a power in the fear or the pigeon or

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whatever you feel stands in between you and your purpose and your destiny.

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But I tell you, who wants you to succeed more than you do?

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If God sent you for a reason and on purpose to the planet, it would make

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sense that he would love to see his sons and daughters fulfill those

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dreams that he impregnated you with.

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He man, he, he's like the proudest one ever.

Siraz Siddique:

To be able to say, Hey, look at what Tim and his wife do.

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Can, can they just be a model?

Siraz Siddique:

Hey, hey, left side of heaven, they have, decluttered, they dropped everything.

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They've been in an RV for five years.

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Did you send them a cake?

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Michael, Michael, send them a cake.

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Like, let's celebrate what's going on in that rv.

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You think I'm playing folks?

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No, no, no, no.

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They literally live the definition of what it means to just, they're,

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you think they're off the grid.

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They're not off the grid, they're on the internet right now.

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They're not off the grid.

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They're off the goods that people thought was good for them.

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And, and when we can relinquish the barns that we're storing up and laying

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up treasures, and now they're storing up and laying up treasures in eternity

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and continue to do so all these years, man, there's so much liberty

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and freedom from letting go and not empowering the things that we think

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we need or the things that are getting in the way of what we think we need.

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It's just a beautiful scenario and so it goes on to share a few more opportunities

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that you'll have to also step into who God is for you and what God really wants from

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the relationship that you have with him.

Tim Winders:

Yeah.

Tim Winders:

See that's, I'm, I'm glad that I highlighted.

Tim Winders:

That sentence.

Tim Winders:

It, it's gonna trigger it.

Tim Winders:

Someone's gonna actually remember that.

Tim Winders:

They'll remember it, which is good.

Tim Winders:

don't, don't be mad at me 'cause I brought that one up.

Tim Winders:

Don't be upset.

Tim Winders:

The book's well done.

Tim Winders:

A passionate pursuit of purpose.

Tim Winders:

Shiraz, why don't you tell us who it's for and where people can find it.

Tim Winders:

Just kind of who it's for, who you think might be the, the

Tim Winders:

person that needs to get the book.

Tim Winders:

I mean, and I know it's everybody, but you know what I mean by that.

Siraz Siddique:

Yeah, absolutely.

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I don't think the book is for, I wish it was for everybody 'cause that's what

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every author wants, but it, it, it's not, it, it, it's for someone who's been

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Christian Long enough to know that they, there's more in their core to explore.

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But they're not old enough to have been jaded by, disappointment or jaded by, what

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sometimes can happen when you fall into a church context and then you begin to,

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it's sad when you start people blaming the church and saying a phrase like, the

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problem with the church is this, then this book isn't for you because you, you are

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putting your own pigeons in the way of the proliferation of God's gift in your life.

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it's not never about the church or the pigeon, it's about you.

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And so it's somebody who's been Christian for a number of years to

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understand that there's more that they can enjoy and experiencing

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God, but they're not old enough that they've been beaten up by this world.

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'cause this book isn't for you.

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If you feel that there's a problem with God in the church,

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this book isn't for you.

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You have other books that'll be more beneficial to help you get through

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those layers and then get on to, discovering and recapturing the

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beauty that what God is for you.

Siraz Siddique:

And that's who this book is for.

Tim Winders:

Yeah, like I said, I read it.

Tim Winders:

Excellent book.

Tim Winders:

It's a, it's a, I don't wanna say it's a easy read because

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it does have depth, but I.

Tim Winders:

It's, it's a good flowing read and it, and it leads from one step to another.

Tim Winders:

It's like a, a bit of a dance with the movement and, and the information

Tim Winders:

provided and, and I enjoyed it.

Tim Winders:

Make sure you get a copy of that.

Tim Winders:

Hey Shiraz, we are seek, go create those three words.

Tim Winders:

I'm gonna allow you to pick one over the other two and tell me why you

Tim Winders:

picked that word just resonates with you or you like it or something.

Tim Winders:

Seek, go or create.

Tim Winders:

Which one do you choose?

Siraz Siddique:

Yeah, pick one.

Siraz Siddique:

Okay.

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Um, okay.

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A philosophy.

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I, live by, just a offshoot of faith, but for, for me, it's, jump and

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build your wings on the way down.

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I don't recommend that I, I'm not prescribing that for anybody else,

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but for me, this guy, I do it often.

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I jump and build my wings on the way down.

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So I'd probably pick, go and then create on my way down

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and then seek a soft landing.

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So I, I, I will definitely say go.

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That, be that, that begins most of my journeys.

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For good or bad, it begins most of my journey.

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So I'm still that go guy.

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And then I try to create my wings to, to seek out where

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this flight is gonna take me.

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But it's always a go.

Siraz Siddique:

Yeah,

Tim Winders:

Very good.

Tim Winders:

Thank you for that.

Tim Winders:

Shiraz.

Tim Winders:

Check out.

Tim Winders:

Well done.

Tim Winders:

A passionate pursuit of purpose.

Tim Winders:

Get that We'll have links and everything.

Tim Winders:

I guess people can get it anywhere, right?

Tim Winders:

Amazon, all those places, right?

Siraz Siddique:

Amazon's easiest.

Siraz Siddique:

we, you can get it from our website, but, I think Amazon's easiest and

Siraz Siddique:

more, most efficient for, for, for most

Tim Winders:

Okay, we'll include the links down to the website and also CBHN.

Tim Winders:

Check that out.

Tim Winders:

That's, good information over there, great conversations going on there, and

Tim Winders:

just, I appreciate the conversation and I appreciate the connecting that we have

Tim Winders:

been able to do with, the conversations we've had over the last few months.

Tim Winders:

We are seek go create here.

Tim Winders:

We release new episodes every Monday.

Tim Winders:

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Tim Winders:

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Tim Winders:

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Tim Winders:

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Tim Winders:

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Tim Winders:

Until next time, continue.

Tim Winders:

That you were created to be.

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Redefining Success in Leadership, Business & Ministry

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Tim Winders

Tim Winders is a faith driven executive coach and author with over 40 years of experience in leadership, business, and ministry. Through his personal journey of redefining success, he has gained valuable insights on how to align beliefs with work and lead with purpose. He is committed to helping others do the same, running a coaching business that helps leaders, leadership teams, business owners, and entrepreneurs to align their beliefs with their work and redefine success.

In addition to his coaching business, Tim is also the host of the SeekGoCreate podcast and author of the book Coach: A Story of Success Redefined, which provides guidance for those looking to redefine success and align their beliefs with their work. With his extensive background, unique perspective and strengths in strategic thinking, relationship building, and problem-solving, Tim is well-suited to help clients navigate through difficult times and achieve their goals.