The Power of Letting Go: Shiraz Siddique's Insights on Purpose

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Get rid of the good things and do the God things.

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How do you do that?

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Declutter and simplify.

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You will find purpose when you simplify a lot of the things that you're doing now.

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There's so many different ways to do it, but I know that somebody

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needed to hear that today.

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Um,

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Where does the path of professional success

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intersect with spiritual purpose?

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Today on Seek, go Create, we're joined by Shiraz Sidique, the visionary behind

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the Christian Business Harvest Network.

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We'll call it CBHN.

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From now on, Shiraz is on a mission to empower business professionals to not

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only excel in their careers, but also fulfill their divine destiny through faith

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as the author of Well Done, a passionate Pursuit of Purpose, good alliteration.

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There by the way, Shiraz Advocates for a Life that goes beyond the

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mundane, urging individuals to align their work with God's Plan.

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CBHN stands as a testament to his commitment offering tools and a community

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for those seeking to weave their faith into their professional lives.

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Shiraz, welcome to Seat Go Create.

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Tim, I gotta tell you, I'm gonna steal that intro.

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You make me sound pretty good.

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I hope they use that when I show up in heaven.

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And then I like, like I, I could just picture Peter or Gabriel be like,

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attention, because that was a really good intro and you deliver it pretty good too.

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Thanks for that intro, man.

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Cool man.

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Great to have you here.

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Yeah.

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I do wonder, I kinda had this vision when you were saying that of like, uh,

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you know, like this slow clap line, when you kind of get to heaven and,

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and you kinda like clapping you on.

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I think a lot of people, and we'll talk about Judgment Day, I love in your

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book, 'cause I read it just over the last few days, judgment Day, I kept

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picturing like Arnold Schwarzenegger and Sarah Connor Judgment Day.

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It's not quite that.

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I know that's what you weren't referring to, but, uh, I think so

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many people look at it as like this negative event, but I'm, I'm actually

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thinking there could be a lot of joy there, but I'm getting off track.

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I'm getting ahead of myself.

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Shiraz, you and I bumped into each other before we've talked.

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I've been on CBHN.

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We've, we've done some things and had some great conversations.

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But if, if someone just bumps into you and they ask you what you do,

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what do you typically tell them?

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I mean, My wife still can't answer that question.

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When somebody asks her what her husband does, when you avail yourself, I, I,

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I see myself as not necessarily a Dr.

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Jack of all trades, but a master of none, but being who

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God needs to be in that moment.

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Now that sounds like a little spiritualized and high highfalutin.

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That's not what I mean.

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It's you develop a passion for people and then you lean into what

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Paul said, all things to all people.

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And if the scenario calls for a bit of mentorship and guidance,

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well then let's go there.

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If it's tactical and practical, well then let's go there.

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so what I do is try my best to avail myself as a tool for the people that I

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get to encounter through the work that I do, whether it's the, TV show that

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we operate, whether it's the food truck that we are about to launch, or the other

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areas that I'm involved with in ministry.

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But what I do is try to be that tool and you're the best.

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Tool that I've learned to be is the one that doesn't exist.

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I've learned to not do anything if God is saying, this one is for you

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and the bench, sit this one out.

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Hmm.

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Is that hard for you to do?

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Is that hard for you to sit out?

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Are you wired that way?

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Is.

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that's why I said I'm learning, to sit out.

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there's been too many times in my life where I've gotten in my

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own way, because you're always trying to do the right thing.

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You're always trying to go above and beyond add value.

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the, all of the old adage leave a place better than you left it, or, or, or

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leave a place better than you found it.

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And you always want to, leave the fingerprint of God's blessing on something

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that I, I is in your rear view mirror.

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And so many times God's like, can you just chill out?

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I don't think I ever asked you to do that, but alright.

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You want to go and be extra again?

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Go ahead.

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But I didn't really ask you to do that.

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And so I'm learning still with all these gray hairs, I'm still learning.

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So what's interesting, you and I, we've had a few conversations

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and I think we've clicked.

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I think we're maybe cut from the similar cloth.

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we have some different backgrounds, cultural, all that kind of

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stuff, but seems like we're leaning in the same direction.

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So I'm gonna ask you this because it's something that I

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think about from time to time.

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Do you ever wish that you were, and, and I don't want this to be degrading

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to the people that have this profession, but I'm gonna say, do you ever wish

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you were just a plumber or just an electrician, or just a blah, blah, blah?

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Especially with the conversation we just had and someone asking

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you the question, what you do?

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Do you ever wish that?

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Do you ever think about that at all?

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100%.

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You, we are wired, in similar ways and probably from the

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same tribe in heaven as well.

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Definitely.

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wow.

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How do I, okay, my wife is my rock, my anchor, my joy, my reason, she

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and I couldn't be more different.

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When we're in social settings, she'll look to me to light up the room

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and begin conversations, engage.

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And she enjoys me being social and she doesn't understand that

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sometimes I just don't have the energy or the lift to lift the room.

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And I just wanna be a person in the room, not be the reason why the

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room is vibrating like I want to be.

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All these years I thought she always wanted to be more like me, more

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outgoing, more vivacious, and the entire time I want to be like her.

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I want to be the wallpaper.

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I want to just, I I can I just be in the room without having

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to have my presence felt.

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So I'm with you 100%.

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And I think you're right, it has to, it, it has to do with the,

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your, your primary function.

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It, well, I'll put you another way.

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so I have two daughters who are 1921 and my wife.

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So I live with three ladies.

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when their hair is curly, they want it straight.

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When their hair is straight.

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Hmm.

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They want it curly.

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Right?

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It it's almost like you crave what the opposite of what

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your, your, your 90% wiring is.

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Does that make any sense?

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It, it does.

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And I, I think for me, it, it helps me understand some of my gifting,

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some of my purpose, that I'm pursuing.

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We're talk about in Well done near in Little law.

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It helps me understand it more to attempt to poke holes at who I am.

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And, and let me, I wanna, let's go ahead and dive in the deep end.

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Okay.

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I wanna dive in the deep end because there was something that I kept

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thinking about as I was reading your book over the last few days.

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And it's the question that I want to ask, and it's sort of related

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to this and it, and it, and I, I'll just go ahead and ask it.

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What comes easy for you?

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What is like.

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I from, from knowing you and being around you, I could guess, but I want

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hear it out of your mouth and then it might lead down a few different

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paths based on what you say here.

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So what's easy for Shiraz?

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I come from a family who, work with their hands.

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my dad was a millwright mechanic.

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A millwright.

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If you, I don't think you have mill rights in the states or not, but in

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Canada, what, millwright is, they're, they're licensed to do everything welding,

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build a car, build a house like you are literally licensed to, to do anything.

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When it comes to mechanical engineering or construction, operate a crane,

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like literally, that's how powerful the millwright license is like.

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my brother, has rebuilt his house twice.

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I was there with the donuts and the coffee and a lot of encouragement.

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I was given a double dose of this ride here.

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These hands are not my dad's hands, right?

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I literally, my cousins, every, my extended family, I'm the only one,

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that was given a double portion of gab where they all, they all got the

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triple portions of toolbox, right?

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And, and so they know how to, but I, and so I've learned to lean

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into what came natural to me.

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When you grow up in an environment that's opposite.

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see, when you're a hard worker and you go to work, you punch a clock, you're, you're

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raised in a home where you work hard, you punch your clock, you come home, you

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do this, and then you punch your clock.

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That was my mentality, but it never was congruent with my,

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the makeup that God gave me.

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So I spent so many years of my life fighting my own DNA and design.

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'cause I was trying to be something that my environment, my parents weren't

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bad parents, don't get me wrong.

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They, they, they would never mean me any harm.

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That was never it.

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It's just, they just thought that this was the mold and the cookie cut that

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all the kids were gonna fall into.

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And so what I started doing is, is playing with it a little bit.

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Let me try it, let me try it, let me try.

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But it gets to a point where when you know, and you figure it

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out, you gotta start turning the volume down on every, everything.

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And more importantly, every one else.

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So what's interesting is, yeah, you and I are similar.

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We might wanna check some, family trees somewhere along the way.

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I'm not sure.

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My dad excellent with his hands mechanic.

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He, he worked in education, but he worked in the vocational trades, he

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helped people do things and all that.

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But he was an administrator and I just from as early on as I can remember, put

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me up on a stage in front of people.

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Let me talk.

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Just let me talk now.

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I, I do think that there is some conflict there, because what it does

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is it starts driving us in directions such as, especially if, you have a faith

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ministry, it's like, oh, you could speak.

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So what you need to do is you need to go into what we would call traditional

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ministry and things like that.

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What were some of the things that, early on you recognized as like,

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okay, I, I'm not this, I don't work with these very well, I work with

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this, What are some of the pros and cons of having that as a gift?

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I think it's universal.

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I don't think it's, o only subject to the gift of gab.

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I think everybody's gifting and, bent towards where their sweet spot is, is

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absolutely always gonna be your greatest blessing and your greatest curse when

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you don't manage and maintain it.

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And, and, and that goes for act actors, celebrities, athletes.

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If you don't manage and maintain and get better at what God made you better

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at, uh, there's gonna be a problem.

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I, I, it's it.

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And so I don't think it's just, unique to talking a lot.

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well it, it's kind of like this.

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If, there are people who are made and they're great with numbers and there are

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other people that should never delete the calculator app off their phone.

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Like, don't do it.

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You need the help.

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there are people who are great at art.

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this guy, he stopped at stick figures right here.

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He's like, Hmm, yeah, no thanks.

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No thanks.

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And can you imagine in one of my art, I think I got like

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a C or a D on stick figures.

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I'm joking, but like, that's how bad it is when it comes to being creative

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with, with withdrawing my hands.

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So I think everybody has already a sense of who they are.

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And here's one way you figure it out.

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It it, it's what comes naturally to me.

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What do I enjoy doing?

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And if you can lean into that, it will open up curiosity and spark opportunities.

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But you know what it's gonna do?

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It's gonna come to a point where you're gonna have to make a decision.

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You're gonna have to decide is it worth it or not?

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there is this, good, the bad and the ugly that it's gonna come with

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no matter what your gifting is.

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But you gotta decide, is it worth it?

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I think to answer your question now very specifically about, what comes

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with talking a lot, you get accused of talking a lot, talk too much.

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But isn't that what everybody's accused of?

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If they really lean into their gift or you do it too much, you're doing too much.

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Is there a line, maybe I'll throw it back to you, that, that, you found

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with what naturally you've been able to help all these people that you've

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helped the organizations and the companies that you've been able to help.

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how do you straddle that line where like, you know what, I need them

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to come to their own conclusion.

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Hey horse, there's the water.

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Or when do you like, oh, here's my right foot of fellowship.

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Now you're in the water.

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where's that line that you've been able to figure, okay, how do I dance here?

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Well, I think it really, I think it probably comes back

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to the whole theme of your book.

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It's really, we're looking for what our purpose is.

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And so what we do is we go through life is we do identify those things.

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Like you said.

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I, I agree with you.

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as for as long as I can remember, I love to, and let's maybe, let's,

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let's maybe spin it positive.

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I think we are communicators and connectors.

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I think that's really what we're drawn to is to communicate and connect

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people and yeah, we could do that with a microphone like we're doing here.

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We could do it on a stage and, and for me, Shiraz is really interesting.

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I know there was a period of time during the nineties where I was speaking in

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front of a group almost every night and with a business that I was doing

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and teaching and training and corporate stuff and all that kinda stuff.

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And I realized at some point that.

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Our superpower can become our kryptonite because I was

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leaning extremely heavily on it.

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And, and in many ways it was becoming a drug.

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And I don't think I was honoring that gifting that I had with what I was

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doing with it and things like that.

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Now, had I recognized that along the way, I think maybe I could have made

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some adjustments, but what typically happens is God will do something

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to get your attention is the way it is, the way it worked with me.

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And and so I, I do think that it's something that, you know, it's just

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an awareness and I think surrounding ourselves with people that can

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maybe speak into our lives, which I, I typically have, I've done well

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at that at times, times I haven't.

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And anyway, I, I think, I think that's how I, I, I would say it.

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I.

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here's, one of the experiences that I've gone through.

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this is not a braggadocious or a, or a, you know, a, a a, a claim that

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that makes me sound full of myself.

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But I'm pretty good on a stage with a mic in my hand.

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I can keep it fresh.

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I can keep a room jumping alive with a lot of energy.

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I get to host a lot of business conferences with, two, 3000

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people in the room, pastored at a few different churches.

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So yes, when you're in the pulpit, you have that opportunity to speak life and

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life abundantly into people's very souls.

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and, and, and and it's one of those things where, man, you couldn't even pay me to

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do this 'cause I'm gonna do it anyway.

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'cause I'm just so wired to do this and I love it.

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Like, you can't pay me to do it.

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Until I started trying to get paid to do it,

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Yeah.

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And so what happened then when all of a sudden we, let's

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bring money into the equation.

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yeah.

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Let's bring money to the equation for everyone

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because you've got this gift.

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You believe you've been given it.

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Now figure out how to bring money into the household.

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Pay for stuff.

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What happens then?

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Yeah.

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Because, the mistake that I had made was thinking that my source

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was my gift, not recognizing that my source was the giver of the gift.

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And when I leaned so hard into the gift, it was hard to make money from the gift.

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And, and that was a hard lesson for me because, I put all my eggs into

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this one entrepreneurial venture where I was, doing public speaking

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training because I'm pretty good at it.

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And I had a lot of people, I mean a lot of, could you spend time with my staff?

Siraz Siddique: 00:16:36

Could you train me here?

Siraz Siddique: 00:16:38

professors at colleges were like, Hey, can you help me design this module

Siraz Siddique: 00:16:41

so I can present to my students?

Siraz Siddique: 00:16:43

how do I do what you do?

Siraz Siddique: 00:16:45

And it got to my head, my heart, where I was like, okay, now my hand is activated

Siraz Siddique: 00:16:51

and I'm gonna start this consulting business and I'm gonna train people on how

Siraz Siddique: 00:16:55

to become more effective communicators.

Siraz Siddique: 00:16:57

man, what a mistake.

Siraz Siddique: 00:16:59

Because now I'm taking the gift and I'm monetizing.

Siraz Siddique: 00:17:04

The gift that God gave me that wasn't even mine to begin with.

Siraz Siddique: 00:17:09

Instead of just trusting him to open the doors where and when he needed

Siraz Siddique: 00:17:14

it to be activated and operated.

Siraz Siddique: 00:17:16

So when I said off the top, when you asked me, okay, what do you do?

Siraz Siddique: 00:17:19

this, that's kind of where I'm, where I was coming from.

Siraz Siddique: 00:17:22

What I do is try to avail myself to people and connect them, not on a

Siraz Siddique: 00:17:26

horizontal, but a vertical level, because you're right, we are communicators

Siraz Siddique: 00:17:29

and connectors, but connect on a horizontal so I can reconnect them on

Siraz Siddique: 00:17:33

a vertical level back to their father.

Siraz Siddique: 00:17:36

Now life is flowing a lot more better because I'm not trying

Siraz Siddique: 00:17:40

to monetize the gift on my own.

Siraz Siddique: 00:17:42

I'm just allowing God to do that.

Tim Winders: 00:17:45

I'll ask the question.

Tim Winders: 00:17:45

I'll ask the flip side.

Tim Winders: 00:17:46

What's hard for you?

Tim Winders: 00:17:47

What's like, what's like really hard?

Siraz Siddique: 00:17:50

Accounting.

Siraz Siddique: 00:17:52

Yeah, like, your GSC and your Hs C doing all, doing all your taxes,

Siraz Siddique: 00:17:56

doing it on a monthly basis, snapping a photo is easy, right?

Siraz Siddique: 00:18:00

You just snap a photo and it just uploads to the app.

Siraz Siddique: 00:18:02

I don't even make time to snap the photo of the receipt every month to upload it.

Siraz Siddique: 00:18:07

anything that is routine and you can, I hate it, but my accountant

Siraz Siddique: 00:18:14

is like, just drop off a box of receipts and you're good, Shiraz.

Siraz Siddique: 00:18:17

I got this.

Siraz Siddique: 00:18:18

But then when the bill came in at x and it was three fig, four figures, I was

Siraz Siddique: 00:18:22

like, wait, I, I, I'm not, I don't wanna pay you pay, pay you this, I'm out.

Siraz Siddique: 00:18:26

I'm just gonna do it on my own.

Siraz Siddique: 00:18:27

I don't, I'm not gonna, no, no, no, I'm not paying you.

Siraz Siddique: 00:18:29

I'm gonna do it on my own.

Siraz Siddique: 00:18:30

And then I never get around to doing it on my own.

Siraz Siddique: 00:18:32

'cause I'm trying to save money, but I'm not, I'm realizing that

Siraz Siddique: 00:18:35

I'm losing time, I'm losing money, I'm losing my peace of mind.

Siraz Siddique: 00:18:39

So a hard thing that I'm learning, what's hard for me to do is,

Siraz Siddique: 00:18:43

I don't think that I'm cheap.

Siraz Siddique: 00:18:46

But I'm frugal and there is, there's a big divide between cheap and frugal.

Siraz Siddique: 00:18:50

And so it's hard for me to do is spend money on things that I feel like I

Siraz Siddique: 00:18:56

could be doing on my own, but I never really have enough time 'cause I don't

Siraz Siddique: 00:18:59

measure my time capacity well enough to actually get around to do it.

Siraz Siddique: 00:19:04

Long-winded answer, but yeah, that's what I'm, I'm struggling through, right?

Siraz Siddique: 00:19:07

Like right now in this season.

Siraz Siddique: 00:19:09

That's what I'm struggling through.

Tim Winders: 00:19:10

So at, at some point when you were younger, so you grew

Tim Winders: 00:19:14

up in the family with, you said you had a lot of people that were

Tim Winders: 00:19:17

we'll call skilled with their hands.

Tim Winders: 00:19:20

Let's just, we'll kind of call it

Siraz Siddique: 00:19:21

Absolutely.

Siraz Siddique: 00:19:22

Blue collar is fine as well.

Siraz Siddique: 00:19:23

By the way.

Siraz Siddique: 00:19:24

Blue collar is fine as well.

Tim Winders: 00:19:26

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Tim Winders: 00:19:26

And then all of a sudden that there, because I, I saw it kind

Tim Winders: 00:19:31

of dotted along and I know you've been involved with ministry,

Tim Winders: 00:19:35

but let me go ahead and hit you with an interesting question that you can answer.

Tim Winders: 00:19:40

I go over to your LinkedIn and I don't see ministry anywhere there.

Tim Winders: 00:19:44

So tell me about the ministry and then maybe un layer back why I

Tim Winders: 00:19:50

didn't see it over on your LinkedIn.

Tim Winders: 00:19:52

I, and I think your LinkedIn's a little bit old.

Tim Winders: 00:19:53

you probably like me.

Tim Winders: 00:19:54

You probably don't go update it that often, but, is that

Tim Winders: 00:19:57

too hard of a question there?

Tim Winders: 00:19:58

It's like, Hey man, where's the ministry?

Tim Winders: 00:20:00

Come on, man.

Siraz Siddique: 00:20:02

not at all.

Siraz Siddique: 00:20:03

it, you get to a point where if you are secure in your relation, if you're secure

Siraz Siddique: 00:20:06

in your marriage, you have to walk around telling people that you're married.

Siraz Siddique: 00:20:10

That's weird to me.

Siraz Siddique: 00:20:11

I've been married 25 years, we just celebrated 25 years.

Siraz Siddique: 00:20:14

You don't see a wedding ring.

Siraz Siddique: 00:20:15

if my heart isn't married to my wife, what is my ring supposed to prove to the world?

Siraz Siddique: 00:20:20

and, and, and, and my wife is cool.

Siraz Siddique: 00:20:23

Like she's totally fine with me not wearing my wedding ring.

Siraz Siddique: 00:20:25

If I was wearing different rings, it would meet, it would meet,

Siraz Siddique: 00:20:27

Hey, hey, you're ringing that ring, but not your wedding ring.

Siraz Siddique: 00:20:29

That would be an issue.

Siraz Siddique: 00:20:29

I just really could never get comfortable with my wedding ring.

Siraz Siddique: 00:20:32

I just couldn't do it.

Siraz Siddique: 00:20:33

It's fine.

Siraz Siddique: 00:20:34

my in-laws had a problem with that.

Siraz Siddique: 00:20:35

That's another story.

Siraz Siddique: 00:20:36

But, so like.

Siraz Siddique: 00:20:37

Like, with my relationship with God, I am good with God like me and him.

Siraz Siddique: 00:20:43

I feel like we got a good thing going.

Siraz Siddique: 00:20:45

Am I gonna try to prove that to everybody in the world?

Siraz Siddique: 00:20:47

This is what I found.

Siraz Siddique: 00:20:47

So there's this one church that I was pastoring at.

Siraz Siddique: 00:20:49

I was an associate pastor.

Siraz Siddique: 00:20:50

I wasn't the head pastor church in just outside of Toronto, called Huley.

Siraz Siddique: 00:20:54

What up Huley family.

Siraz Siddique: 00:20:55

If you're listening in.

Siraz Siddique: 00:20:56

and when I was, while I was pastoring there, I was working full-time at,

Siraz Siddique: 00:20:59

this telecommunications company.

Siraz Siddique: 00:21:01

I was their national sales manager.

Siraz Siddique: 00:21:02

So I had about three or four teams and I dunno, maybe 20, 30

Siraz Siddique: 00:21:05

people, rolling up and, and just managing a bunch of different

Siraz Siddique: 00:21:09

things at different times, right?

Siraz Siddique: 00:21:10

And this is what I found when I was there.

Siraz Siddique: 00:21:13

while at, while at this company, when I say record setting, yeah, I, not

Siraz Siddique: 00:21:16

only did I break and then I reset every sales record, it was, I mean, you

Siraz Siddique: 00:21:21

talk about God's favor on your life.

Siraz Siddique: 00:21:23

It was just powerful.

Siraz Siddique: 00:21:24

and, and and people would constantly come up to me, Raz, what is your secret sauce?

Siraz Siddique: 00:21:30

What is it that, gets you all these wonderful results?

Siraz Siddique: 00:21:33

Can you tell us your strategy and deadpan look up?

Siraz Siddique: 00:21:39

So they came to my desk.

Siraz Siddique: 00:21:40

I didn't go to them.

Siraz Siddique: 00:21:43

They came to my desk.

Siraz Siddique: 00:21:46

And Tim, it was, it was simple.

Siraz Siddique: 00:21:48

I just deadpan look in the face like God really likes me.

Tim Winders: 00:21:54

You are his favorite.

Siraz Siddique: 00:21:56

it, and it was really interesting because I

Siraz Siddique: 00:21:59

would get two distinct responses.

Siraz Siddique: 00:22:00

Always.

Siraz Siddique: 00:22:01

always.

Siraz Siddique: 00:22:01

It was like uhha, oops.

Siraz Siddique: 00:22:04

Gone.

Siraz Siddique: 00:22:04

Like, and like, end of conversation or what do you mean?

Siraz Siddique: 00:22:10

And those, what you means meant so much to me in those four or

Siraz Siddique: 00:22:14

five years that I was doing both.

Siraz Siddique: 00:22:16

'cause I was, I held both roles at the same time.

Siraz Siddique: 00:22:18

Pastoring and full-time at this telecommunications company.

Siraz Siddique: 00:22:22

And, and, and so this is a difference that I found.

Siraz Siddique: 00:22:25

My desk tended to be a greater magnet than my pulpit.

Siraz Siddique: 00:22:31

So when you're preaching, you have to invite people to sacrifice the rhythm

Siraz Siddique: 00:22:34

of their life if they hadn't already be, come to the full rele revelation of who

Siraz Siddique: 00:22:38

God is and who Jesus is and what he had done For all of us, you have to make an

Siraz Siddique: 00:22:43

effort to break your Sunday routine, put some nice clothes on and get to church.

Siraz Siddique: 00:22:47

Okay?

Siraz Siddique: 00:22:49

But if you're already at work.

Siraz Siddique: 00:22:50

So I began to wonderful.

Siraz Siddique: 00:22:52

What was more powerful, my pulpit or my desk.

Tim Winders: 00:22:54

Hmm.

Siraz Siddique: 00:22:55

And so as soon as I put up a sign, so it bothered me

Siraz Siddique: 00:22:59

that people would walk away just because I said God really likes me.

Siraz Siddique: 00:23:04

And so I didn't want to repel people.

Siraz Siddique: 00:23:07

But I continue to want God's glory on my life because in Isaiah when

Siraz Siddique: 00:23:11

it says The kings will come to the brightness of your Don Kings, your gifts

Siraz Siddique: 00:23:17

will make room for you before kings.

Siraz Siddique: 00:23:20

And so when I began to just allow the favor of God on my life to

Siraz Siddique: 00:23:25

perform through sales results and watching people flock because kings

Siraz Siddique: 00:23:30

come to the brightness of your dawn, your gifts will make room for you.

Siraz Siddique: 00:23:34

People were flocking to my desk, I gotta tell you, was struggled to,

Siraz Siddique: 00:23:38

to get them to church on a Sunday.

Siraz Siddique: 00:23:40

And so what was I exposed to do now, the people that walked away, that it

Siraz Siddique: 00:23:43

bothered me that people would walk away just 'cause I said God likes me.

Siraz Siddique: 00:23:46

So LinkedIn is meant to be, Hey, when I'm active, I haven't been for,

Siraz Siddique: 00:23:50

for a little bit, in transition with one of the roles that I'm doing in

Siraz Siddique: 00:23:53

a media, from a media perspective.

Siraz Siddique: 00:23:54

So when I get back on that, I'll be more active on LinkedIn.

Siraz Siddique: 00:23:58

But what it's meant to be is like, Hey, I remember that Shiraz guy.

Siraz Siddique: 00:24:01

Let me go check him out.

Siraz Siddique: 00:24:03

See him, but as soon as you're gonna meet me, we're talking about God.

Siraz Siddique: 00:24:08

And so I found that keeping my desk neutral, but our communication right

Siraz Siddique: 00:24:17

on point makes a big difference for me.

Siraz Siddique: 00:24:20

Now, do I think everyone should prescribe to that approach?

Siraz Siddique: 00:24:24

No.

Siraz Siddique: 00:24:25

I'm wired to be able to, the duality of my existence being corporate and

Siraz Siddique: 00:24:30

ministry at the same time I can.

Siraz Siddique: 00:24:33

I can rock both worlds at the same time.

Siraz Siddique: 00:24:35

Took me years to figure it out.

Siraz Siddique: 00:24:36

But I can do very both effectively.

Siraz Siddique: 00:24:38

Sometimes it was bifurcating and bipolar in my mind to be able to do both.

Siraz Siddique: 00:24:42

But I've learned over time how to be both.

Siraz Siddique: 00:24:45

And again, back hosting off the off, off the beginning to

Siraz Siddique: 00:24:48

be all things to all people.

Siraz Siddique: 00:24:50

So I've learned.

Siraz Siddique: 00:24:51

But both of them are gonna be a gateway to a vertical connection.

Tim Winders: 00:24:55

Right, because you're a connector and your ultimate

Tim Winders: 00:24:58

connection is to connect people with their creator, their their God.

Tim Winders: 00:25:03

so you, but you did spend some time in full-time ministry also, didn't you?

Tim Winders: 00:25:06

Didn't you do?

Tim Winders: 00:25:07

So you've kind of been in and around.

Tim Winders: 00:25:08

I think I, I, I think I remember learning about some of your early years.

Tim Winders: 00:25:12

so one question I always have with people that have been around what we

Tim Winders: 00:25:17

would call air quotes here, for those that can't see the video, I've got air

Tim Winders: 00:25:21

quotes, traditional ministry or the

Tim Winders: 00:25:24

full-time ministry role.

Tim Winders: 00:25:25

Many people.

Tim Winders: 00:25:28

Assume that that is the ultimate, that is the, the pinnacle of a spiritual walk with

Tim Winders: 00:25:35

God is to be in a full-time ministry role.

Tim Winders: 00:25:38

And we, we discuss this quite often here, so this is not a

Tim Winders: 00:25:42

new topic for the listener.

Tim Winders: 00:25:44

At times.

Tim Winders: 00:25:45

There are people that when they leave that role, they go through some degree

Tim Winders: 00:25:50

of, I failed, or God may not be pleased.

Tim Winders: 00:25:55

Or people come up to them and say, oh, I'm sorry brother, you must have

Tim Winders: 00:26:00

backslid or something like that you and I think you went back and forth some,

Tim Winders: 00:26:04

if you wanna share a little bit of that story here, that's fine, but it's at

Tim Winders: 00:26:08

some point, see you're probably like me.

Tim Winders: 00:26:11

You don't consider yourself not in ministry now, but at some point you

Tim Winders: 00:26:16

disconnected with what many would consider traditional and or full-time ministry.

Tim Winders: 00:26:21

What was that like?

Siraz Siddique: 00:26:24

Yeah.

Siraz Siddique: 00:26:25

I mentioned my, my family being all workers, my dad's side.

Siraz Siddique: 00:26:29

My mom, when I was young, she was Muslim when my dad married her.

Siraz Siddique: 00:26:35

And so when she came to the full knowledge and revelation of who Jesus is.

Siraz Siddique: 00:26:43

Man, there's one thing to grow up around Christianity, but there's another thing

Siraz Siddique: 00:26:47

to grow around in a different faith and then have that moment where like, Jesus

Siraz Siddique: 00:26:51

just walks into your life and just loves you, like you've never been loved before.

Siraz Siddique: 00:26:54

So she was crazy lady Christian, right?

Siraz Siddique: 00:26:56

Like, she was just like, went all out.

Siraz Siddique: 00:26:59

Because again, when, when you, when you, when you have been

Siraz Siddique: 00:27:03

around the concept of Christianity, you might take it for granted.

Siraz Siddique: 00:27:06

But for her, she never did because she knew what it was to not to live out.

Siraz Siddique: 00:27:11

So for her, the greatest, achievement in her life, other than the grandkids,

Siraz Siddique: 00:27:15

'cause we stopped existing when we all had kids, was, when I became a pastor,

Siraz Siddique: 00:27:20

that was her great crowning achievement.

Siraz Siddique: 00:27:23

She, she'd call it.

Siraz Siddique: 00:27:25

Did you see my beta?

Siraz Siddique: 00:27:26

That means son, he is pastor.

Siraz Siddique: 00:27:28

Like, so she was like, so like always beaming with such pride

Siraz Siddique: 00:27:31

because her son was a pastor.

Siraz Siddique: 00:27:33

So for her it was a really big deal.

Siraz Siddique: 00:27:35

Not to say that it wasn't for me, but for her it just meant the world for her.

Siraz Siddique: 00:27:40

growing up, my uncle, so this is on my dad's side, planted the

Siraz Siddique: 00:27:44

very first thisI church in Canada.

Siraz Siddique: 00:27:47

This is a term that encompasses Pakistan and India.

Siraz Siddique: 00:27:50

he, and, and the church was, the language was Urdu, which is in Pakistan

Siraz Siddique: 00:27:55

and Punjabi, which is in India.

Siraz Siddique: 00:27:57

And so they would speak the very, their dialects of the same language effectively.

Siraz Siddique: 00:28:02

and I'm 19.

Siraz Siddique: 00:28:05

He's training me to kind of take over the ministry, not take over,

Siraz Siddique: 00:28:08

but join him in ministry and, 'cause we were always around and, and like,

Siraz Siddique: 00:28:12

Hey, let's send you to seminary.

Siraz Siddique: 00:28:14

And so I'm 19 and I'm going off to seminary school.

Siraz Siddique: 00:28:16

Like it's, everything's set.

Siraz Siddique: 00:28:18

Like let's go.

Siraz Siddique: 00:28:19

And, and, and, and, I asked a simple question one Sunday afternoon,

Siraz Siddique: 00:28:22

and this changed my life forever.

Siraz Siddique: 00:28:24

This one Sunday afternoon, we're at my uncle's house again, the pastor a few

Siraz Siddique: 00:28:27

other leaders are there, and we're talking about the summer outreach programs when,

Siraz Siddique: 00:28:30

when you consider outreach, in those days it was specifically to, an Indian and

Siraz Siddique: 00:28:35

Pakistan community, which would've been predominantly, Hindu, Muslim, or Sikh.

Siraz Siddique: 00:28:39

population of that is quite large in the GTA, the greater Toronto area.

Siraz Siddique: 00:28:43

And, how do we do this outreach and there this plan and that plan, and

Siraz Siddique: 00:28:46

this plan and that plan, Tim, I asked a simple question and they came for me.

Siraz Siddique: 00:28:53

The, so, how are we gonna pay for this?

Siraz Siddique: 00:28:59

You have no faith.

Siraz Siddique: 00:29:02

What is, and I'm looking around and I just looked at this one person that said,

Siraz Siddique: 00:29:08

I don't even know where this came from.

Siraz Siddique: 00:29:09

I was like, I don't know how to fish.

Siraz Siddique: 00:29:13

I'm not gonna go find gold coins in a fish's mouth.

Siraz Siddique: 00:29:16

I just asked a simple question.

Siraz Siddique: 00:29:19

I was so frustrated that this was a Sunday.

Siraz Siddique: 00:29:21

By the Monday I figured out a way, now enrollment and

Siraz Siddique: 00:29:25

acceptance was already done.

Siraz Siddique: 00:29:26

'cause it's June school starts in September, I'm done high school.

Siraz Siddique: 00:29:29

got into a community college and went into marketing.

Siraz Siddique: 00:29:31

Except forget this, I don't want anything to do with this ministry.

Siraz Siddique: 00:29:33

They don't even have the ability to do this.

Siraz Siddique: 00:29:37

Uh, four years later I'm pastoring at a church, a different church.

Siraz Siddique: 00:29:41

And, and, and so God has a sense of humor.

Siraz Siddique: 00:29:43

And so I've been able to bring that flavor into.

Siraz Siddique: 00:29:47

House one of being, fiscally forward, meaning let's go and generate as

Siraz Siddique: 00:29:53

much income as we can for ministries to fulfill the vision that God has

Siraz Siddique: 00:29:59

through the pastor of that house.

Siraz Siddique: 00:30:01

I don't care what house, what, where your, your, your pastor has a vision

Siraz Siddique: 00:30:04

for what they want to accomplish, but how are we gonna pay for it?

Siraz Siddique: 00:30:06

And that created my drive for CBHN, for example, is to help

Siraz Siddique: 00:30:11

every person make as much money as possible with two conditions.

Siraz Siddique: 00:30:17

With, with two qualifiers.

Siraz Siddique: 00:30:18

What are you willing to do to make that money?

Siraz Siddique: 00:30:21

Say your, establish your moral ground, establish it and maintain it,

Siraz Siddique: 00:30:25

and don't question your integrity.

Siraz Siddique: 00:30:27

what are you willing to do to get it?

Siraz Siddique: 00:30:28

And secondly, what are you gonna do with it?

Siraz Siddique: 00:30:32

And as long as you can answer those two questions, I feel like that Sunday

Siraz Siddique: 00:30:35

afternoon still shapes me to this day.

Siraz Siddique: 00:30:39

Right?

Siraz Siddique: 00:30:39

To, to, to ensure that everybody makes as much money as possible to pay for.

Siraz Siddique: 00:30:46

Their pastor.

Siraz Siddique: 00:30:46

Summer outreach program.

Siraz Siddique: 00:30:48

Yes.

Siraz Siddique: 00:30:48

Help out charities and do all those things.

Siraz Siddique: 00:30:49

But your local church man, God created that for us to be able to,

Siraz Siddique: 00:30:54

but as an effective communicator, I did, by the way, in my thirties, go

Siraz Siddique: 00:30:57

back and get my master's in theology because that's still a part of me.

Siraz Siddique: 00:31:01

I, I have pastored at three different churches since, or in

Siraz Siddique: 00:31:04

total three churches, stints, but never as a head pastor.

Siraz Siddique: 00:31:08

So I've always had this sweet spot where I'm able to be in ministry and in

Siraz Siddique: 00:31:12

the corporate world at the same time.

Siraz Siddique: 00:31:14

'cause I'm not the senior pastor.

Siraz Siddique: 00:31:15

I'm coming alongside for a season.

Siraz Siddique: 00:31:18

I don't know who that was for, but I just want to give you

Siraz Siddique: 00:31:20

the liberty that you matter.

Siraz Siddique: 00:31:22

And if you're listening today, listen, I just wanna remind you,

Siraz Siddique: 00:31:25

there are 12 tribes of Israel.

Siraz Siddique: 00:31:26

Only one of them were priests.

Siraz Siddique: 00:31:30

So what value does that represent for all of the rest of us When the

Siraz Siddique: 00:31:34

Bible calls us, we are a king priest.

Siraz Siddique: 00:31:36

Royal priesthood unto God, meaning we're king and priest.

Siraz Siddique: 00:31:40

Yeah.

Siraz Siddique: 00:31:40

Some people just have a higher percentage king.

Siraz Siddique: 00:31:42

Some people just have a higher percentage priest.

Siraz Siddique: 00:31:44

But we're both, and we will always be both.

Siraz Siddique: 00:31:47

'cause we are royal king side, and priest, right?

Siraz Siddique: 00:31:51

Because that's what we are.

Siraz Siddique: 00:31:53

But 11 outta 12 year percentage for King is higher than your priestly side.

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But again, we're both.

Siraz Siddique: 00:31:59

So if you are part of the 11 or the 12, which means the majority

Siraz Siddique: 00:32:02

of the people, that means we need to empower as many people as

Siraz Siddique: 00:32:06

possible to pursue their purpose.

Siraz Siddique: 00:32:09

Not in church, not in christen them, but within their giftings, in their DNA.

Siraz Siddique: 00:32:15

So they can go and conquer in the marketplace to release the

Siraz Siddique: 00:32:19

blessings and provide for the vision of the, of the priest, meaning

Siraz Siddique: 00:32:24

the pro vision for the vision.

Siraz Siddique: 00:32:27

And I apologize for getting too excited, passion, but at the core of

Siraz Siddique: 00:32:31

it, that's what I live for, is to make sure that we can pay for all these

Siraz Siddique: 00:32:34

pastor's visions that exists, that God has raised up across the globe.

Tim Winders: 00:32:38

Yeah, I like that I pulled your string there.

Tim Winders: 00:32:40

I was, I was hoping I could do that.

Tim Winders: 00:32:41

I could get you kinda worked up there.

Siraz Siddique: 00:32:43

you did.

Tim Winders: 00:32:44

and I lo, I love the example of the 11 outta the 12 tribes and if you

Tim Winders: 00:32:47

want to jump over to the New Testament, of the 12 that Jesus surrounded himself with.

Tim Winders: 00:32:55

What, he, he went out and got the, the, the dirty fisherman and, and he, he,

Tim Winders: 00:33:00

I don't wanna say he maybe not, didn't pick his accountant well, but you know,

Tim Winders: 00:33:04

that was probably part of the plan.

Tim Winders: 00:33:05

But,

Tim Winders: 00:33:07

but but we know, but we know who he picked there.

Tim Winders: 00:33:11

so here's the big question that I think you are looking to address with the book.

Tim Winders: 00:33:16

I think it's the big question that our listeners have, probably the people that

Tim Winders: 00:33:20

you interact with, people I interact with.

Tim Winders: 00:33:22

It's how do I step into, how do I identify, how do

Tim Winders: 00:33:28

I know what my purpose is?

Tim Winders: 00:33:33

And we could start talking about, the book here.

Tim Winders: 00:33:35

We could talk about, I know what you do with CBHN.

Tim Winders: 00:33:37

how do I know that I'm supposed to go get a food truck?

Siraz Siddique: 00:33:41

I, here we go.

Siraz Siddique: 00:33:42

Are you ready?

Tim Winders: 00:33:43

Tell me about the food.

Tim Winders: 00:33:45

What did the

Tim Winders: 00:33:47

skies part and you said.

Siraz Siddique: 00:33:50

Let's go.

Siraz Siddique: 00:33:51

Are you ready?

Siraz Siddique: 00:33:52

Are you ready?

Siraz Siddique: 00:33:52

I'm gonna be long-winded in this one.

Siraz Siddique: 00:33:54

I'm gonna take it because this is, this was revolutionary for me.

Siraz Siddique: 00:33:57

I'm gonna work backwards.

Siraz Siddique: 00:33:59

I'm gonna start from about four weeks ago, so whatever time we're filming this, this

Siraz Siddique: 00:34:02

in the year, about four weeks ago, I was reading in Genesis where Jacob, decides,

Siraz Siddique: 00:34:08

Hey, I gotta get away from Labban.

Siraz Siddique: 00:34:10

So if you're familiar with the story to Genesis 30, 31, 32, and, uh, Jacob

Siraz Siddique: 00:34:15

had just tricked his brother and he's now takes off and he's living with his

Siraz Siddique: 00:34:20

uncle 'cause his brother wants to, to his brother wants to kill him, basically.

Siraz Siddique: 00:34:23

'cause he took his brother's blessing.

Siraz Siddique: 00:34:26

So entire time he's walking around with somebody else's calling on his life.

Siraz Siddique: 00:34:31

Woo.

Siraz Siddique: 00:34:31

We'll get into that in a moment.

Siraz Siddique: 00:34:33

All right, so he's walking around with his brother's calling that

Siraz Siddique: 00:34:35

God never intended for him.

Siraz Siddique: 00:34:37

All right?

Siraz Siddique: 00:34:37

he, his, he, the very thing, so Jacob ends up tricking his dad.

Siraz Siddique: 00:34:41

If you know the story well, guess what happens to Hi, guess hi with

Siraz Siddique: 00:34:44

a brother, brother with siblings.

Siraz Siddique: 00:34:46

Guess what happens to him?

Siraz Siddique: 00:34:47

And on his wedding night, his uncle tricks him and does a sister sister swap?

Siraz Siddique: 00:34:51

He did a brother, brother swap.

Siraz Siddique: 00:34:53

So his, his uncle does a sister sister swap.

Siraz Siddique: 00:34:55

So he ends up, long story short, with two wives, and his uncle doesn't treat him

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really well, but God still blesses him even though he wasn't being treated well.

Siraz Siddique: 00:35:04

Okay?

Siraz Siddique: 00:35:05

So let's fast forward.

Siraz Siddique: 00:35:05

He takes off.

Siraz Siddique: 00:35:07

Ian's like, what?

Siraz Siddique: 00:35:08

Boy, he ain't going nowhere.

Siraz Siddique: 00:35:09

I'm gonna get you.

Siraz Siddique: 00:35:10

And he rallies up all his people and they're gonna, they're chasing down, Jacob

Siraz Siddique: 00:35:15

because for whatever reason, he's just gonna go get 'em and take back whatever.

Siraz Siddique: 00:35:18

Okay?

Siraz Siddique: 00:35:19

So he is all mad and, and Laben.

Siraz Siddique: 00:35:22

At a time of rest on his, as he's pursuing him, God shows up in a dream.

Siraz Siddique: 00:35:27

This is what it says.

Siraz Siddique: 00:35:28

Oh my God.

Siraz Siddique: 00:35:29

Oh my gosh.

Siraz Siddique: 00:35:30

This is what it says, Tim.

Siraz Siddique: 00:35:32

this is what God says to, Laben.

Siraz Siddique: 00:35:34

He says, don't say anything.

Siraz Siddique: 00:35:37

I think it's verse 24.

Siraz Siddique: 00:35:39

He says, don't say anything, bad to Jacob.

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That's not what it says.

Siraz Siddique: 00:35:46

It says, don't say anything bad or good to Jacob.

Siraz Siddique: 00:35:51

I'm like, what the crack is this?

Siraz Siddique: 00:35:53

Sorry, the crack is my Christian swear word.

Siraz Siddique: 00:35:55

I was like, what is this right here?

Siraz Siddique: 00:35:58

Don't say anything bad or good.

Siraz Siddique: 00:36:03

I thought it was okay to do good things.

Siraz Siddique: 00:36:06

I thought it was okay to, bless people.

Siraz Siddique: 00:36:09

I thought it was okay to always do good things.

Siraz Siddique: 00:36:13

at the end, at the end of the day, you, you, you bring up your pile of good

Siraz Siddique: 00:36:16

things and you put it before God and say, ah, here's my 84 years on the planet.

Siraz Siddique: 00:36:21

Judge me now.

Siraz Siddique: 00:36:22

And, and when God said, don't do anything good or bad to Jacob, and

Siraz Siddique: 00:36:28

I began to just peel that back and peel that back and peel that back.

Siraz Siddique: 00:36:31

And, but evaluating is that was the starting point, is me.

Siraz Siddique: 00:36:34

God, okay, in mirror time, what's going on here?

Siraz Siddique: 00:36:35

And I'm just checking myself out in the mirror saying,

Siraz Siddique: 00:36:37

okay, so what's going on here?

Siraz Siddique: 00:36:39

What, what, what am I seeing?

Siraz Siddique: 00:36:41

food truck.

Siraz Siddique: 00:36:41

This is where food truck finally revealed itself is because I stopped

Siraz Siddique: 00:36:45

doing a bunch of good things.

Siraz Siddique: 00:36:47

I peeled back all the extra stuff that I'm doing.

Siraz Siddique: 00:36:50

I just simplified my life and got rid of the bad.

Siraz Siddique: 00:36:53

Don't do anything good.

Siraz Siddique: 00:36:56

I got rid of the good, and that's where my next steps just kind of revealed

Siraz Siddique: 00:37:02

themselves because I simplified my life and I, I, I assure you, if you're

Siraz Siddique: 00:37:07

listening in today, you know what I mean by simplifying your life, decluttering

Siraz Siddique: 00:37:13

your life, clearing out your garage.

Siraz Siddique: 00:37:15

You'll finally find that thing that you were looking for, that you

Siraz Siddique: 00:37:17

didn't even know that you needed.

Siraz Siddique: 00:37:19

But as soon as you declutter and simplify, you will find what you're looking for.

Siraz Siddique: 00:37:25

And that's one of the reasons why I was eager to get on with Tim

Siraz Siddique: 00:37:28

today because I knew that somebody needs to hear that declutter.

Siraz Siddique: 00:37:31

Forget the bad stuff.

Siraz Siddique: 00:37:32

That's obvious.

Siraz Siddique: 00:37:33

Unfortunately, in our religious natures, we're always measuring our

Siraz Siddique: 00:37:37

scale out of zero to minus 10, and we're trying to stay away from the

Siraz Siddique: 00:37:41

worst sins like murder and adultery.

Siraz Siddique: 00:37:43

Perhaps lying is a minus three.

Siraz Siddique: 00:37:45

Perhaps break even is a good point.

Siraz Siddique: 00:37:47

But God is even saying, evaluate all the pluses that you do, and if they

Siraz Siddique: 00:37:52

don't line up with what I made you to do, it's not gonna go well for you.

Siraz Siddique: 00:37:56

On judgment day, get rid of the good things and do the God things.

Siraz Siddique: 00:37:59

How do you do that?

Siraz Siddique: 00:38:00

Declutter and simplify.

Siraz Siddique: 00:38:02

You will find purpose when you simplify a lot of the things that you're doing now.

Siraz Siddique: 00:38:07

There's so many different ways to do it, but I know that somebody

Siraz Siddique: 00:38:09

needed to hear that today.

Siraz Siddique: 00:38:11

I just really wanted to make sure that I can express

Tim Winders: 00:38:13

I, I think that's powerful.

Tim Winders: 00:38:14

And there's so much symbolism sim, I almost didn't say that symbolism with

Tim Winders: 00:38:20

the food truck that I'm gonna ask a little bit more about just a second.

Tim Winders: 00:38:23

But you know, you do, and I know you're aware of this, you're

Tim Winders: 00:38:26

talking to a guy who lives.

Tim Winders: 00:38:30

A 39 foot motor coach, and this is our home and we've, we just celebrated our

Tim Winders: 00:38:36

five year anniversary of living here.

Tim Winders: 00:38:38

We've been traveling for 10 years, but we've been fairly minimalist with stuff.

Siraz Siddique: 00:38:44

Okay.

Tim Winders: 00:38:44

But Shiraz, I did something else.

Tim Winders: 00:38:46

I, I, I actually am coming to believe maybe that is an outward manifestation

Tim Winders: 00:38:53

of cluttering that goes on internally.

Tim Winders: 00:38:56

All the stuff.

Tim Winders: 00:38:57

We have the garages, we fill up the storage units, I'm sure, I'm sure in

Tim Winders: 00:39:00

Canada, y'all have one of the most popular businesses or storage units

Tim Winders: 00:39:04

'cause people have run outta space to store their stuff at their homes and

Tim Winders: 00:39:07

their basements, their garages can't even get a car in their garage anymore.

Tim Winders: 00:39:10

They're now putting it in storage facilities.

Tim Winders: 00:39:12

But I'm coming to realize how cluttered we are inside our

Tim Winders: 00:39:17

minds, our souls, our hearts.

Tim Winders: 00:39:20

And one of the things I did, it's going on about four months ago, is I

Tim Winders: 00:39:23

cut out a lot of what I was consuming news information, and I realized

Tim Winders: 00:39:31

that I was addicted to information.

Tim Winders: 00:39:35

It was an addiction.

Tim Winders: 00:39:36

I went through it.

Tim Winders: 00:39:36

It was the month of October, the tail end of 2023.

Tim Winders: 00:39:39

I decided I wasn't gonna drink some alcohol and I wasn't going to read

Tim Winders: 00:39:42

all my news and stuff like that.

Tim Winders: 00:39:44

The alcohol I'm not addicted to.

Tim Winders: 00:39:46

I could have a sip of something every once in a while and be fine.

Tim Winders: 00:39:49

The information, I had cold sweats almost after about two or three days

Tim Winders: 00:39:52

because I wasn't able to read all the stuff that I had in front of me.

Tim Winders: 00:39:56

My mind is so much clearer now.

Tim Winders: 00:39:58

Talk a little bit about, and this is, we're gonna ease into the book here,

Tim Winders: 00:40:02

talk a little bit about how important it is to unclutter our minds to get

Tim Winders: 00:40:09

to this place of where our purpose is.

Tim Winders: 00:40:12

I think most people can't get to it 'cause they're listening to too many.

Tim Winders: 00:40:15

I'm gonna say something that might be controversial.

Tim Winders: 00:40:17

Too many preachers, teachers reading this latest spiritual book,

Tim Winders: 00:40:20

reading all the Self-help you know the Greatest, latest, greatest.

Tim Winders: 00:40:25

And I think we got too much going on.

Tim Winders: 00:40:27

Talk about that some Shiraz.

Siraz Siddique: 00:40:30

I honestly feel that, in north American, church culture

Siraz Siddique: 00:40:35

context, we potentially could be more educated beyond our ability to implement.

Siraz Siddique: 00:40:45

We know more than, okay, if we simply applied 20% of the goodness of God

Siraz Siddique: 00:40:51

that we already have come to know, we could change the world just 20%.

Siraz Siddique: 00:40:57

I.

Siraz Siddique: 00:40:58

And yet there is an addiction, as you said, to information,

Siraz Siddique: 00:41:00

there's an addiction to X, y, Z.

Siraz Siddique: 00:41:02

Potentially there's an addiction to the rhythm, the rhythmatic nature

Siraz Siddique: 00:41:07

of what it means to be a Christian.

Siraz Siddique: 00:41:08

You go to church on a Sunday to hear, you go to church on a Sunday to hear

Siraz Siddique: 00:41:11

maybe there's a podcast on the other week, da da da da da da da da, a a a.

Siraz Siddique: 00:41:16

And so just the whole concept of spiritual constipation is real.

Siraz Siddique: 00:41:21

A lot going in.

Siraz Siddique: 00:41:24

But how much coming out, last night, my wife and I, we got to spend

Siraz Siddique: 00:41:29

some time with some old friends.

Siraz Siddique: 00:41:30

He runs a, with a Canadian division.

Siraz Siddique: 00:41:32

It's a global organization called Voice of the Martyrs.

Siraz Siddique: 00:41:35

And, lovely couple, I'll leave their names out of it, but, look them up.

Siraz Siddique: 00:41:39

Voice the martyrs.

Siraz Siddique: 00:41:40

They, they help per the persecuted church around the globe.

Siraz Siddique: 00:41:42

we were just talking about what we feel like God is doing in our lives.

Siraz Siddique: 00:41:45

And, and this is what, the husband said last night.

Siraz Siddique: 00:41:48

He said, I felt like God was saying, so I.

Siraz Siddique: 00:41:52

I was like, wait, what?

Siraz Siddique: 00:41:54

I, he felt like God was saying, so he did something about it him

Siraz Siddique: 00:42:00

in his particular mo of motion.

Siraz Siddique: 00:42:02

He was like, I gotta slow down.

Siraz Siddique: 00:42:03

So he happened to be traveling, so he didn't jump on the ov, the

Siraz Siddique: 00:42:06

people mover, he just walked aside it on purpose and cold sweats.

Siraz Siddique: 00:42:09

The way that you described it, he was having those cold

Siraz Siddique: 00:42:11

sweats, but he heard and he did.

Siraz Siddique: 00:42:14

He heard and he did.

Siraz Siddique: 00:42:15

He heard and he did.

Siraz Siddique: 00:42:18

The whole concept of decluttering what you were saying, even our minds, like we

Siraz Siddique: 00:42:23

live in, in an age where we're bombarded by messaging like we've never been before.

Siraz Siddique: 00:42:28

Access to messaging is incredible.

Siraz Siddique: 00:42:30

Just pick up your device like, and it's hard to get off of

Siraz Siddique: 00:42:32

it as soon as you picked up.

Siraz Siddique: 00:42:33

'cause hey, has this ever happened to you audience?

Siraz Siddique: 00:42:35

You pick up your phone to do A, and then you find yourself doing B and then you

Siraz Siddique: 00:42:39

can't even see your way back to A, because you don't even remember what A was.

Siraz Siddique: 00:42:42

That's happened to me.

Siraz Siddique: 00:42:43

I'm not preaching to nobody.

Siraz Siddique: 00:42:44

I'm calling myself out.

Siraz Siddique: 00:42:46

This is just the world that we live in, because we have access

Siraz Siddique: 00:42:49

to all of this information.

Siraz Siddique: 00:42:52

It's gonna take discipline to cut back to declutter.

Siraz Siddique: 00:42:56

Now, an effective way to simply declutter is remind yourself of who you are.

Siraz Siddique: 00:43:04

Okay?

Siraz Siddique: 00:43:05

Somebody described me this way, and, Tim, I'm going to connect

Siraz Siddique: 00:43:08

you if I haven't already to Dr.

Siraz Siddique: 00:43:09

ffr, Franz.

Siraz Siddique: 00:43:10

He's amazing human being.

Siraz Siddique: 00:43:11

He's like this double psychology.

Siraz Siddique: 00:43:12

He's like big brain, smart person.

Siraz Siddique: 00:43:14

I think you guys will have great conversations.

Siraz Siddique: 00:43:15

he, we call ourselves each other.

Siraz Siddique: 00:43:19

We call ourselves shovel sharpeners.

Siraz Siddique: 00:43:23

Okay?

Siraz Siddique: 00:43:24

and, and, and, and and this, this is the way I'll describe it.

Siraz Siddique: 00:43:27

If God gave you a hill and said, there's gold in that hill, is it

Siraz Siddique: 00:43:36

enough that he gave you a hill?

Siraz Siddique: 00:43:41

Oh, I'm sorry.

Siraz Siddique: 00:43:42

So God is all supposed to give you a GPS and put your shovel in the

Siraz Siddique: 00:43:46

ground and do the work for you.

Siraz Siddique: 00:43:48

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Siraz Siddique: 00:43:49

Then why are we here?

Siraz Siddique: 00:43:51

Why do I have oxygen?

Siraz Siddique: 00:43:52

Why did he make muscles in our arms?

Siraz Siddique: 00:43:53

Why do we have a head?

Siraz Siddique: 00:43:55

Why do we have a heart?

Siraz Siddique: 00:43:56

Why did he tell us to be strong and be courage and go for it?

Siraz Siddique: 00:43:59

I.

Siraz Siddique: 00:43:59

Put your shovel in the ground.

Siraz Siddique: 00:44:01

I, I don't have a secret recipe for you to find your purpose.

Siraz Siddique: 00:44:04

I'm telling you, put your shovel in the ground.

Siraz Siddique: 00:44:07

I'm saying it's time you get your shovel in the ground.

Siraz Siddique: 00:44:09

Move some dirt outta the way.

Siraz Siddique: 00:44:11

Keep digging.

Siraz Siddique: 00:44:12

Keep digging.

Siraz Siddique: 00:44:12

'cause you're gonna find two things in the, this is what you're gonna find.

Siraz Siddique: 00:44:15

You're gonna find your gold.

Siraz Siddique: 00:44:16

'cause if, look, if you're gonna put your shovel in the ground, you're guaranteed

Siraz Siddique: 00:44:19

to find what you're looking for.

Siraz Siddique: 00:44:20

But are you gonna put your shovel on the ground or you're waiting for the

Siraz Siddique: 00:44:23

next Another good friend, she always says to, to, she's a nutritious,

Siraz Siddique: 00:44:27

she said, it's weird because I don't teach anything new, but people always

Siraz Siddique: 00:44:31

wanna know how to lose pay weight.

Siraz Siddique: 00:44:32

People know how to lose weight.

Siraz Siddique: 00:44:35

Tim, be more active here.

Siraz Siddique: 00:44:36

Here's the formula.

Siraz Siddique: 00:44:37

Be more active and eat better.

Siraz Siddique: 00:44:39

Simple.

Siraz Siddique: 00:44:40

But people want to know this, the magic pill, that's what they're

Siraz Siddique: 00:44:43

after, but they're not after putting the shovel in the ground.

Siraz Siddique: 00:44:47

Put the shovel in the ground day by day, putting your shovel in the ground.

Siraz Siddique: 00:44:49

So I'm not going to give anybody a recipe, but what I will give you is

Siraz Siddique: 00:44:54

just some encouraging encouragement to put your shovel in the ground.

Siraz Siddique: 00:44:57

'cause you're gonna find two things.

Siraz Siddique: 00:44:59

You will find two things.

Siraz Siddique: 00:45:00

As soon as you get your shovel in the ground, you're gonna find your gold.

Siraz Siddique: 00:45:03

But you'll also find the assassin in the sand.

Siraz Siddique: 00:45:08

Most people have this desire, Tim, to find their purpose, but there's always this

Siraz Siddique: 00:45:15

moment where we're gonna hit, where we're like, I don't know what's holding me back.

Siraz Siddique: 00:45:20

I don't even understand what's holding me back.

Siraz Siddique: 00:45:24

Uh, there's an assassin in the sand that sabotages our ability to move forward.

Siraz Siddique: 00:45:28

It's like we take, we do it for three weeks, but that fourth week, how do

Siraz Siddique: 00:45:33

you get past those shakes after two, three days of being off the news?

Siraz Siddique: 00:45:37

That's the assassin man.

Siraz Siddique: 00:45:38

Like there's always this pushback, blowback to keep us the same size.

Siraz Siddique: 00:45:42

I.

Siraz Siddique: 00:45:43

I won't get into neuroscience, but it's a homeostasis in our brain

Siraz Siddique: 00:45:45

that says, Hey, stay the same.

Siraz Siddique: 00:45:47

Stay the same, stay the same stay.

Siraz Siddique: 00:45:48

But God has called us to so much more than that.

Siraz Siddique: 00:45:51

And you pulled another string on me, buddy.

Siraz Siddique: 00:45:53

You did.

Siraz Siddique: 00:45:53

Uh uh, and and, and it's like, again, you're gonna find two things.

Siraz Siddique: 00:45:56

I refuse to give people the answer that's already in them.

Siraz Siddique: 00:45:59

How do I know the answers already there?

Siraz Siddique: 00:46:02

Because in every acorn is the ability to become an oak tree in your DNA

Siraz Siddique: 00:46:07

before the foundations of the earth.

Siraz Siddique: 00:46:09

He says in Psalm 1 39 that we were fearfully and wonderfully already

Siraz Siddique: 00:46:13

knitted in our mother's womb.

Siraz Siddique: 00:46:15

He's already put the DNA in us.

Siraz Siddique: 00:46:17

That purpose isn't an external additive like a cloak.

Siraz Siddique: 00:46:21

It is an internal explosion that comes from within activate that.

Siraz Siddique: 00:46:26

How do you do that?

Siraz Siddique: 00:46:27

Get you to shovel in the dirt.

Siraz Siddique: 00:46:29

Now I better stop or else I'm gonna keep on going.

Tim Winders: 00:46:31

so you don't have like a three steps to purpose, seven steps.

Tim Winders: 00:46:35

This is A, B, C, D.

Tim Winders: 00:46:36

Listen, we, here, here's part of our culture.

Tim Winders: 00:46:39

We, we do have, you mentioned the North American.

Tim Winders: 00:46:42

I'll sometimes say first world culture.

Tim Winders: 00:46:44

Our North American first world culture.

Tim Winders: 00:46:47

They're looking for the easy button.

Tim Winders: 00:46:49

I I, at times I'm looking for the easy button.

Tim Winders: 00:46:51

I'm looking for what's, where's the easy button?

Tim Winders: 00:46:54

We're looking for the easy button.

Tim Winders: 00:46:57

And what I heard you say, it's not hard, but it's not easy either.

Tim Winders: 00:47:08

And if I look out over the horizon, if I'm consuming too much stuff,

Tim Winders: 00:47:12

I'm gonna hear someone talk about the easy button and I will in all

Tim Winders: 00:47:16

likelihood gravitate towards which one.

Siraz Siddique: 00:47:20

Human nature.

Tim Winders: 00:47:21

the easy, the easy

Tim Winders: 00:47:24

button.

Tim Winders: 00:47:25

So somewhere along the way, Shiraz, speaking of something that I don't

Tim Winders: 00:47:30

think is easy, 'cause I've written a book and, and you've written earlier,

Tim Winders: 00:47:34

you mentioned you're not an artist.

Tim Winders: 00:47:36

See, I think to put words on paper like you did, there's art to that.

Tim Winders: 00:47:41

I think there's, I think it's shoveling the ground stuff too, by the way.

Tim Winders: 00:47:44

I think writing a book is shoveling the ground, but, so you've got the book here.

Tim Winders: 00:47:48

Well done.

Tim Winders: 00:47:50

A passionate pursuit of purpose alliteration there, you, your

Tim Winders: 00:47:54

alliteration, guys, that you

Siraz Siddique: 00:47:57

Mm-Hmm.

Siraz Siddique: 00:47:58

Love it.

Tim Winders: 00:47:58

could, you come up with like three or four more P words just in there?

Siraz Siddique: 00:48:03

I, I could have, but you

Tim Winders: 00:48:04

A plethora, a plethora of passionate pursuit of purpose.

Tim Winders: 00:48:09

Now tell me, tell me, tell me how it originated.

Tim Winders: 00:48:12

Because here, and, and let me, I'm gonna layer it with something often.

Tim Winders: 00:48:18

People that have a gift of speaking, taking that and putting some

Tim Winders: 00:48:25

of their thoughts on paper is, is, is a difficult thing to do.

Tim Winders: 00:48:30

Or they, sometimes we will talk ourselves out of it because we could

Tim Winders: 00:48:33

do a microphone and do these things.

Tim Winders: 00:48:36

What was that like and why did you decide to do it?

Tim Winders: 00:48:38

And then we'll talk a little bit about the book before you start wrapping up here.

Siraz Siddique: 00:48:43

Why?

Siraz Siddique: 00:48:44

we were in Orlando, and, we were back in the room.

Siraz Siddique: 00:48:47

my wife, looks at me, so I was on, I was actually, we were staying in this nice

Siraz Siddique: 00:48:50

little place and, like a via Airbnb, and I was on the balcony and my wife, just pops

Siraz Siddique: 00:48:55

her head out and I was doing some writing.

Siraz Siddique: 00:48:57

Like I'm prone to do just my own journaling, but I

Siraz Siddique: 00:48:59

don't call it journaling.

Siraz Siddique: 00:49:00

I just call my writing and my wife pops her head out and says, man, are

Siraz Siddique: 00:49:03

you finally gonna write that book?

Siraz Siddique: 00:49:06

Like, Like, like what I thought you were making, I thought coffee.

Siraz Siddique: 00:49:13

What, what?

Siraz Siddique: 00:49:15

And, That was it.

Siraz Siddique: 00:49:18

That was it.

Siraz Siddique: 00:49:18

I didn't realize that I'd been writing with all the sermons and messages

Siraz Siddique: 00:49:22

that I've had been privileged and fortunate to be able to share,

Siraz Siddique: 00:49:25

different churches and other venues.

Siraz Siddique: 00:49:27

I had written.

Siraz Siddique: 00:49:29

But it's a completely different art form to write than it is to speak.

Siraz Siddique: 00:49:33

And you know this full well, to, you can put so much more emotion and

Siraz Siddique: 00:49:38

tonality, facial expression, passion, juice into and, and, and, and, and

Siraz Siddique: 00:49:43

reinforce with power every word.

Siraz Siddique: 00:49:46

But you can't do that in, in black and white.

Siraz Siddique: 00:49:48

It just changes everything.

Siraz Siddique: 00:49:51

And so learning how to do it was, one step.

Siraz Siddique: 00:49:54

I didn't step, I didn't write it to be an author.

Siraz Siddique: 00:49:58

I didn't write it so I could write it.

Siraz Siddique: 00:50:00

I wrote it so it could be read.

Siraz Siddique: 00:50:02

Uh, I was very excited when we cut out 80 pages.

Siraz Siddique: 00:50:06

It was 82 pages to be cut out of the book.

Siraz Siddique: 00:50:08

if, if you look at the average person, I'm not, we didn't write this for readers.

Siraz Siddique: 00:50:12

It was written to somebody who doesn't necessarily read that

Siraz Siddique: 00:50:15

often, so it's just 10 chapters.

Siraz Siddique: 00:50:18

Each cha, each chapter is about 12 to 13 pages.

Siraz Siddique: 00:50:23

We wanted it to be read.

Siraz Siddique: 00:50:25

We didn't want it to be written.

Siraz Siddique: 00:50:27

And so with that objective in mind, we made it so that every person had the

Siraz Siddique: 00:50:32

ability and the capacity to be able to.

Siraz Siddique: 00:50:35

Receive what they need from it.

Siraz Siddique: 00:50:38

And so when we wrote it that way, it changed everything.

Siraz Siddique: 00:50:42

And you'll know this, when you sell a book, the seal just go poof.

Siraz Siddique: 00:50:48

And they're back up there.

Siraz Siddique: 00:50:49

Now they're on this like steady incline and like, with it when you're

Siraz Siddique: 00:50:53

on Amazon, it's just interesting.

Siraz Siddique: 00:50:54

You got Australia, New Zealand, places in Africa, south

Siraz Siddique: 00:50:58

America, all across the states.

Siraz Siddique: 00:51:00

Canadian can, the Canadian market to me was okay, that's makes sense 'cause

Siraz Siddique: 00:51:03

maybe one or two people know me here.

Siraz Siddique: 00:51:05

and, and but to see it just sell around the world, uh, didn't make sense.

Siraz Siddique: 00:51:11

But I'm glad that, we did the project and when I say we, I couldn't have done

Siraz Siddique: 00:51:17

it without my wife's support 'cause of all the sacrifices that are necessary.

Siraz Siddique: 00:51:19

'cause I'm not naturally a writer.

Siraz Siddique: 00:51:21

I'm a communicator.

Siraz Siddique: 00:51:23

And so the objective was to translate what this communicate, but do it in writing.

Siraz Siddique: 00:51:28

And so we hope that we are able to accomplish, that mission.

Tim Winders: 00:51:31

something that's interesting for me during, during a

Tim Winders: 00:51:36

process like that, we've talked about, the ability to communicate and, and,

Tim Winders: 00:51:41

and I, I think I've come to terms that part of what I'm doing here.

Tim Winders: 00:51:48

Part of what I'm doing in other areas.

Tim Winders: 00:51:52

At times I feel as if I'm doing it for other people, for

Tim Winders: 00:51:57

their information, et cetera.

Siraz Siddique: 00:52:00

Mm-Hmm.

Tim Winders: 00:52:00

But Shiraz, I'm like coming to this place where a lot of what,

Tim Winders: 00:52:05

and, and this is kind of for creators by the way, I'm kind of saying this,

Tim Winders: 00:52:09

we kind of have this thought of we're entertaining or educating or getting

Tim Winders: 00:52:13

information out to the world to have impact and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Tim Winders: 00:52:19

I'm becoming more and more convinced that what I'm doing

Tim Winders: 00:52:21

right here, right now is for me.

Siraz Siddique: 00:52:24

Okay.

Tim Winders: 00:52:24

And when I wrote out, I think I came to the it's, it

Tim Winders: 00:52:29

sells and all that kind of stuff.

Tim Winders: 00:52:31

We'd always love to sell more probably.

Tim Winders: 00:52:32

But

Tim Winders: 00:52:33

I'm wondering if it was for me, what transpired with you not.

Tim Winders: 00:52:42

What everybody else is reading.

Tim Winders: 00:52:43

What, what, what transpired with you while you were in the, the process

Tim Winders: 00:52:47

of writing and putting this down.

Siraz Siddique: 00:52:50

when you look at, whether it's organizationally, corporate,

Siraz Siddique: 00:52:53

small business, or individually, church every single time, and I

Siraz Siddique: 00:52:58

saw this and it just blew my mind.

Siraz Siddique: 00:53:00

I, I never had seen this and this was while I was still writing the

Siraz Siddique: 00:53:03

book and it changed everything.

Siraz Siddique: 00:53:05

If you look at somebody's mission statement or vision or purpose statement.

Siraz Siddique: 00:53:11

Every single one is for the benefit of others.

Siraz Siddique: 00:53:15

Check it.

Siraz Siddique: 00:53:16

If you read your own, if you read everyone's mission or

Siraz Siddique: 00:53:19

vision or purpose statement, it's always to the benefit of others.

Siraz Siddique: 00:53:23

Companies will talk about their clients, churches will talk

Siraz Siddique: 00:53:26

about their parishioners, know whatever they wanna call them,

Siraz Siddique: 00:53:29

their congregation, individuals.

Siraz Siddique: 00:53:31

You know, I wanted to live a life of age, you know, for, for, for leave.

Siraz Siddique: 00:53:34

Pass a legacy on to my kids.

Siraz Siddique: 00:53:36

But it's always to the benefit.

Siraz Siddique: 00:53:38

A real purpose statement.

Siraz Siddique: 00:53:40

A real purpose statement has ev someone else in mind.

Siraz Siddique: 00:53:45

And so that's what helped me, with that moment of like, okay,

Siraz Siddique: 00:53:50

I really gotta write this with.

Siraz Siddique: 00:53:53

The audience in mind.

Siraz Siddique: 00:53:54

Did I do a good job of that?

Siraz Siddique: 00:53:56

Time?

Siraz Siddique: 00:53:56

Tell Will tell.

Siraz Siddique: 00:53:58

I'm working on the second and the third book right now, and, there's

Siraz Siddique: 00:54:00

already a bit of a demand for the, second one, so I'm, I'm it, it'll

Siraz Siddique: 00:54:04

get out there in the next few months.

Siraz Siddique: 00:54:06

I'm looking forward to that.

Siraz Siddique: 00:54:07

But, but it, it, and I think it's the, the main feedback when you hear like,

Siraz Siddique: 00:54:12

man, you were reading of my life.

Siraz Siddique: 00:54:14

Like, that's exactly where I was.

Siraz Siddique: 00:54:15

That's, and when you start hearing stuff that from people from around the

Siraz Siddique: 00:54:19

world, it, it's kind of like, oh, okay.

Siraz Siddique: 00:54:22

And it reminds you of that moment, what you're describing.

Siraz Siddique: 00:54:25

Mission, purpose, vision.

Siraz Siddique: 00:54:27

It always has other people in mind.

Tim Winders: 00:54:31

One of the things that I did is I went through and did

Tim Winders: 00:54:33

some highlighting and I've got, I think we're gonna wrap this up here.

Tim Winders: 00:54:39

I'm gonna ask you about one statement, but I just wanna mention a few highlights that

Tim Winders: 00:54:44

I'll think will help people get a flavor.

Tim Winders: 00:54:45

one of the highlights I had was, but the busyness of life.

Tim Winders: 00:54:48

This relates back to what we were talking about earlier, cluttering the busyness of

Tim Winders: 00:54:51

life is desperately trying to weigh you down with logistical family obligations.

Tim Winders: 00:54:56

Probably a lot of other obligations.

Tim Winders: 00:54:58

Another highlight, one of the most common prayer requests I receive,

Tim Winders: 00:55:01

this is you talking is for clarity about a person's calling and

Tim Winders: 00:55:04

for direction for their destiny.

Tim Winders: 00:55:06

That gives somebody the flavor of this book called Well Done.

Tim Winders: 00:55:10

But I want us to wrap up with one.

Tim Winders: 00:55:13

Item that I highlighted, and I want you to just tell this story because this, this

Tim Winders: 00:55:18

is like my thickest highlight in the book.

Tim Winders: 00:55:21

Okay.

Tim Winders: 00:55:21

You ready for this?

Siraz Siddique: 00:55:24

Okay.

Tim Winders: 00:55:24

I still have a vivid memory of sitting on the toilet as a

Tim Winders: 00:55:29

toddler when suddenly one of my dad's pet pigeons flew in through the window.

Tim Winders: 00:55:37

I'm sorry, man.

Tim Winders: 00:55:38

That's a sentence that just screams.

Tim Winders: 00:55:40

Tell me more.

Siraz Siddique: 00:55:42

Oh man.

Siraz Siddique: 00:55:44

the things that you didn't want to make the cut and made the

Siraz Siddique: 00:55:46

cut, and that's, in the book.

Siraz Siddique: 00:55:48

Yeah.

Siraz Siddique: 00:55:49

And not only that, you figured, okay, hopefully nobody

Siraz Siddique: 00:55:51

remembers that, but, here it is.

Siraz Siddique: 00:55:53

Uh,

Tim Winders: 00:55:53

we need to edit this out?

Tim Winders: 00:55:54

Do I have to edit this out?

Tim Winders: 00:55:55

Because that, see, to me, that tells me someone who is relating and sharing

Tim Winders: 00:56:02

and, and it leads into something.

Tim Winders: 00:56:05

I'll let you share if you want to now what it leads to.

Tim Winders: 00:56:07

But I also know that there's someone sitting, going, I gotta get this book now.

Siraz Siddique: 00:56:11

Yeah.

Siraz Siddique: 00:56:12

so I love you for that, Tim.

Siraz Siddique: 00:56:13

That was awesome.

Siraz Siddique: 00:56:14

yeah, and, and, and freaking out.

Siraz Siddique: 00:56:16

I'm sitting there and I, I was like, I don't know, two, three.

Siraz Siddique: 00:56:19

but I mean, it's weird.

Siraz Siddique: 00:56:20

I have memories since when I was less than a year old, and my mom

Siraz Siddique: 00:56:24

was like, how do you know that?

Siraz Siddique: 00:56:25

And it's kind of cool.

Siraz Siddique: 00:56:26

and I remember freaking out.

Siraz Siddique: 00:56:27

We lived in a, in then, in a city called London, Ontario.

Siraz Siddique: 00:56:30

I was actually born in London, Ontario.

Siraz Siddique: 00:56:32

And uh, my dad had pet pigeons, of course.

Siraz Siddique: 00:56:37

And who, whose dad doesn't have pet pigeons.

Tim Winders: 00:56:39

I mean, see, see for one thing, me, I'm sitting goings.

Tim Winders: 00:56:43

What?

Tim Winders: 00:56:43

What the.

Siraz Siddique: 00:56:44

this, this, it, it is, my dad was a hunter, so he

Siraz Siddique: 00:56:47

had a lot of, animals, but he, he had a lot of guns, hunting guns.

Siraz Siddique: 00:56:51

and I know that's, controversial for some folks in Canada and in the States,

Siraz Siddique: 00:56:55

but whatever, he's, my dad love him.

Siraz Siddique: 00:56:56

He's gone.

Siraz Siddique: 00:56:57

He's probably hanging out with Jesus right now.

Siraz Siddique: 00:56:58

and, and, and, and so he had birds.

Siraz Siddique: 00:57:00

He had bunch different stuff around.

Siraz Siddique: 00:57:02

So when it came in the window, I was just, I was just freaking out.

Siraz Siddique: 00:57:06

And, uh, he's like, well, then just get up.

Siraz Siddique: 00:57:09

I was like, I was too, I was paralyzed in that moment.

Siraz Siddique: 00:57:12

'cause the thing that always kept me back was in this, in this, in this

Siraz Siddique: 00:57:18

situation, took in the form of a bird.

Siraz Siddique: 00:57:21

But it's what kept me back from just simply going to unlock

Siraz Siddique: 00:57:24

the door to let my dad in.

Siraz Siddique: 00:57:26

To get the bird.

Siraz Siddique: 00:57:27

'cause I'm young freaking out.

Siraz Siddique: 00:57:28

They're like, what's going on?

Siraz Siddique: 00:57:29

But I had locked the door.

Siraz Siddique: 00:57:31

I was old enough to lock the door, and I'm sitting on the toilet door is locked.

Siraz Siddique: 00:57:35

And he is like, well just unlock the door, but be between me and the door.

Siraz Siddique: 00:57:39

Was my fear.

Siraz Siddique: 00:57:42

A harmless pigeon that was probably more afraid of me than I was of it.

Siraz Siddique: 00:57:47

But it stood between me and the door.

Siraz Siddique: 00:57:49

And the only thing that got me to the door was my dad leaning up against the door.

Siraz Siddique: 00:57:54

And you know how when you lean against it, there's a little

Siraz Siddique: 00:57:55

crack that creates if you push it.

Siraz Siddique: 00:57:57

And just, I could hear his deep voice saying, it's gonna be all right.

Siraz Siddique: 00:58:01

Just come and open the door first.

Siraz Siddique: 00:58:03

You're gonna be fine.

Siraz Siddique: 00:58:05

You're gonna be fine.

Siraz Siddique: 00:58:06

You're gonna be fine.

Siraz Siddique: 00:58:07

And then all through my life, there's moments like that where I remember

Siraz Siddique: 00:58:10

my dad saying to me, sh, You're ma.

Siraz Siddique: 00:58:14

You're doing too much.

Siraz Siddique: 00:58:16

You're making too much out of the negative.

Siraz Siddique: 00:58:19

It's not that big.

Siraz Siddique: 00:58:21

Just comment, unlock.

Siraz Siddique: 00:58:22

I.

Siraz Siddique: 00:58:23

The fear that's in between where you stand and where your purpose is.

Siraz Siddique: 00:58:26

It's actually not that hard.

Siraz Siddique: 00:58:30

Just get up and unlock the door.

Siraz Siddique: 00:58:32

It's as soon as you unlock that door, son, I will rush in and, and again,

Siraz Siddique: 00:58:36

there are people listening today.

Siraz Siddique: 00:58:37

As soon as you just stand up for God, watch him stand up for you, watch him

Siraz Siddique: 00:58:43

take care of what was, what was fake.

Siraz Siddique: 00:58:46

Anyways, there's, there was never a power in the fear or the pigeon or

Siraz Siddique: 00:58:49

whatever you feel stands in between you and your purpose and your destiny.

Siraz Siddique: 00:58:53

But I tell you, who wants you to succeed more than you do?

Siraz Siddique: 00:58:56

If God sent you for a reason and on purpose to the planet, it would make

Siraz Siddique: 00:59:02

sense that he would love to see his sons and daughters fulfill those

Siraz Siddique: 00:59:05

dreams that he impregnated you with.

Siraz Siddique: 00:59:08

He man, he, he's like the proudest one ever.

Siraz Siddique: 00:59:12

To be able to say, Hey, look at what Tim and his wife do.

Siraz Siddique: 00:59:15

Can, can they just be a model?

Siraz Siddique: 00:59:17

Hey, hey, left side of heaven, they have, decluttered, they dropped everything.

Siraz Siddique: 00:59:22

They've been in an RV for five years.

Siraz Siddique: 00:59:25

Did you send them a cake?

Siraz Siddique: 00:59:26

Michael, Michael, send them a cake.

Siraz Siddique: 00:59:28

Like, let's celebrate what's going on in that rv.

Siraz Siddique: 00:59:31

You think I'm playing folks?

Siraz Siddique: 00:59:32

No, no, no, no.

Siraz Siddique: 00:59:33

They literally live the definition of what it means to just, they're,

Siraz Siddique: 00:59:37

you think they're off the grid.

Siraz Siddique: 00:59:38

They're not off the grid, they're on the internet right now.

Siraz Siddique: 00:59:40

They're not off the grid.

Siraz Siddique: 00:59:42

They're off the goods that people thought was good for them.

Siraz Siddique: 00:59:48

And, and when we can relinquish the barns that we're storing up and laying

Siraz Siddique: 00:59:52

up treasures, and now they're storing up and laying up treasures in eternity

Siraz Siddique: 00:59:56

and continue to do so all these years, man, there's so much liberty

Siraz Siddique: 01:00:00

and freedom from letting go and not empowering the things that we think

Siraz Siddique: 01:00:05

we need or the things that are getting in the way of what we think we need.

Siraz Siddique: 01:00:09

It's just a beautiful scenario and so it goes on to share a few more opportunities

Siraz Siddique: 01:00:13

that you'll have to also step into who God is for you and what God really wants from

Siraz Siddique: 01:00:20

the relationship that you have with him.

Tim Winders: 01:00:22

Yeah.

Tim Winders: 01:00:23

See that's, I'm, I'm glad that I highlighted.

Tim Winders: 01:00:27

That sentence.

Tim Winders: 01:00:28

It, it's gonna trigger it.

Tim Winders: 01:00:29

Someone's gonna actually remember that.

Tim Winders: 01:00:31

They'll remember it, which is good.

Tim Winders: 01:00:33

don't, don't be mad at me 'cause I brought that one up.

Tim Winders: 01:00:35

Don't be upset.

Tim Winders: 01:00:37

The book's well done.

Tim Winders: 01:00:38

A passionate pursuit of purpose.

Tim Winders: 01:00:41

Shiraz, why don't you tell us who it's for and where people can find it.

Tim Winders: 01:00:46

Just kind of who it's for, who you think might be the, the

Tim Winders: 01:00:49

person that needs to get the book.

Tim Winders: 01:00:50

I mean, and I know it's everybody, but you know what I mean by that.

Siraz Siddique: 01:00:54

Yeah, absolutely.

Siraz Siddique: 01:00:55

I don't think the book is for, I wish it was for everybody 'cause that's what

Siraz Siddique: 01:00:59

every author wants, but it, it, it's not, it, it, it's for someone who's been

Siraz Siddique: 01:01:02

Christian Long enough to know that they, there's more in their core to explore.

Siraz Siddique: 01:01:09

But they're not old enough to have been jaded by, disappointment or jaded by, what

Siraz Siddique: 01:01:16

sometimes can happen when you fall into a church context and then you begin to,

Siraz Siddique: 01:01:21

it's sad when you start people blaming the church and saying a phrase like, the

Siraz Siddique: 01:01:24

problem with the church is this, then this book isn't for you because you, you are

Siraz Siddique: 01:01:28

putting your own pigeons in the way of the proliferation of God's gift in your life.

Siraz Siddique: 01:01:32

it's not never about the church or the pigeon, it's about you.

Siraz Siddique: 01:01:36

And so it's somebody who's been Christian for a number of years to

Siraz Siddique: 01:01:38

understand that there's more that they can enjoy and experiencing

Siraz Siddique: 01:01:41

God, but they're not old enough that they've been beaten up by this world.

Siraz Siddique: 01:01:46

'cause this book isn't for you.

Siraz Siddique: 01:01:48

If you feel that there's a problem with God in the church,

Siraz Siddique: 01:01:50

this book isn't for you.

Siraz Siddique: 01:01:52

You have other books that'll be more beneficial to help you get through

Siraz Siddique: 01:01:55

those layers and then get on to, discovering and recapturing the

Siraz Siddique: 01:01:59

beauty that what God is for you.

Siraz Siddique: 01:02:02

And that's who this book is for.

Tim Winders: 01:02:04

Yeah, like I said, I read it.

Tim Winders: 01:02:06

Excellent book.

Tim Winders: 01:02:07

It's a, it's a, I don't wanna say it's a easy read because

Tim Winders: 01:02:10

it does have depth, but I.

Tim Winders: 01:02:12

It's, it's a good flowing read and it, and it leads from one step to another.

Tim Winders: 01:02:17

It's like a, a bit of a dance with the movement and, and the information

Tim Winders: 01:02:21

provided and, and I enjoyed it.

Tim Winders: 01:02:23

Make sure you get a copy of that.

Tim Winders: 01:02:24

Hey Shiraz, we are seek, go create those three words.

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I'm gonna allow you to pick one over the other two and tell me why you

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picked that word just resonates with you or you like it or something.

Tim Winders: 01:02:35

Seek, go or create.

Tim Winders: 01:02:37

Which one do you choose?

Siraz Siddique: 01:02:39

Yeah, pick one.

Siraz Siddique: 01:02:40

Okay.

Siraz Siddique: 01:02:40

Um, okay.

Siraz Siddique: 01:02:41

A philosophy.

Siraz Siddique: 01:02:42

I, live by, just a offshoot of faith, but for, for me, it's, jump and

Siraz Siddique: 01:02:48

build your wings on the way down.

Siraz Siddique: 01:02:49

I don't recommend that I, I'm not prescribing that for anybody else,

Siraz Siddique: 01:02:52

but for me, this guy, I do it often.

Siraz Siddique: 01:02:54

I jump and build my wings on the way down.

Siraz Siddique: 01:02:56

So I'd probably pick, go and then create on my way down

Siraz Siddique: 01:03:02

and then seek a soft landing.

Siraz Siddique: 01:03:04

So I, I, I will definitely say go.

Siraz Siddique: 01:03:07

That, be that, that begins most of my journeys.

Siraz Siddique: 01:03:09

For good or bad, it begins most of my journey.

Siraz Siddique: 01:03:12

So I'm still that go guy.

Siraz Siddique: 01:03:14

And then I try to create my wings to, to seek out where

Siraz Siddique: 01:03:17

this flight is gonna take me.

Siraz Siddique: 01:03:18

But it's always a go.

Siraz Siddique: 01:03:20

Yeah,

Tim Winders: 01:03:21

Very good.

Tim Winders: 01:03:22

Thank you for that.

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Shiraz.

Tim Winders: 01:03:23

Check out.

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Well done.

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A passionate pursuit of purpose.

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Get that We'll have links and everything.

Tim Winders: 01:03:28

I guess people can get it anywhere, right?

Tim Winders: 01:03:30

Amazon, all those places, right?

Siraz Siddique: 01:03:32

Amazon's easiest.

Siraz Siddique: 01:03:33

we, you can get it from our website, but, I think Amazon's easiest and

Siraz Siddique: 01:03:37

more, most efficient for, for, for most

Tim Winders: 01:03:39

Okay, we'll include the links down to the website and also CBHN.

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Check that out.

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That's, good information over there, great conversations going on there, and

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